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Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by malandrew »

burkaman wrote: post #97
m12r wrote: post #63

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Can you? Microsoft Antitrust nightmare that probably set them back 5 years. Google for invading our privacy, they are still fighting big important battles in Europe. Facebook for similar privacy invasion, the whole beacon debacle. There are a lot of things that they probably did wrong, but not to the extend that the press is picturing it. Agreed 100% w/ dvt.

I could be missing some shady history, but off the top of my head how about Square? Edit: Dropbox, Craigslist, GitHub, PayPal, Instagram, Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter Anyone feel free to jump in if I'm ignoring any exploitation or shadiness. Bad examples: Spotify and Snapchat.

Craigslist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craigslist_Inc._v._3Taps_Inc.

Github: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#Departure_of_Tom_Presto...

Paypal: https://www.google.com/search?q=paypal+scandal&rlz=1C5CHFA_e...

Twitter: https://www.google.com/search?q=twitter+harassment+problem&r...

Square: http://www.businessinsider.com/wsj-square-coo-resigned-after...

So your list has dwindled to just Dropbox and Instagram.

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by PatrickAuld »

kingnothing wrote: post #153
PatrickAuld wrote: post #20

Culture comes from the top and Uber's is pretty rotten. I did an interview there this year and it was the most aggressive questioning I've ever had. Two of 5 interviewers were really in my face while architecting systems; it was bizarre and I almost walked out. Nothing compared to the 'cultural' interview where there gave me an example of them knowingly breaking the law because "they knew they were right" and then as…

This is so vague it almost sounds like trolling. What did they specifically ask in regards to breaking the law?

All they asked me for was a similar experience, not if I had broken the law. The example and question were based on their Core Value of 'Persistent Confrontation' which basically was spun to mean 'don't stop if you know you're right' but I took actually meant 'don't reevaluate your position in the face of new information'.

I'm being somewhat vague on purpose; some level of NDA got signed and my username doesn't exactly keep me anonymous.

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by jpster »

gammarator wrote: post #129
acchow wrote: post #101

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Why do you talk about females like they are precious snowflakes?

Why do you talk about "females?" The word you are looking for is "women." ("Females" connotes reproductive capacity [1], which is seldom relevant, and is also applied to animals. "Women" are human beings.) [1] http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/69157?redirectedFrom=female#ei...

I have been noticing more and more people using "female" as opposed to "woman". (They never seem to substitute "male" for men.) Thank you for articulating this.

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by PatrickAuld »

pavlov wrote: post #79
PatrickAuld wrote: post #20

Culture comes from the top and Uber's is pretty rotten. I did an interview there this year and it was the most aggressive questioning I've ever had. Two of 5 interviewers were really in my face while architecting systems; it was bizarre and I almost walked out. Nothing compared to the 'cultural' interview where there gave me an example of them knowingly breaking the law because "they knew they were right" and then as…

"... the 'cultural' interview where there gave me an example of them knowingly breaking the law because "they knew they were right" and then asked if I had a similar work experience" Incredible. Isn't this how mafia organizations hire? I don't know if this interview method would expose Uber to liability under organized crime laws, but maybe it should.

Having sat through it (but not having experience in law) I don't believe it would.

I'm sure the interviewer and the rest of Uber would say they didn't break the law; only that they enabled and took maybe encouraged others to.

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by PatrickAuld »

badcede wrote: post #85
navalsaini wrote: post #65

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> never returned my calls or contacted me to say if I got the job or not. That is very unprofessional. Saddens to hear that.

Perhaps they realized he was "trying to use them to counter offer another company".

I think they just didn't think I was a fit, which I take as a complement. I could have played the part better but I went through the interview like any other and actually said at some point that "I don't like disruption was a core business practice".

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by dragonwriter »

gammarator wrote: post #129
acchow wrote: post #101

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Why do you talk about females like they are precious snowflakes?

Why do you talk about "females?" The word you are looking for is "women." ("Females" connotes reproductive capacity [1], which is seldom relevant, and is also applied to animals. "Women" are human beings.) [1] http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/69157?redirectedFrom=female#ei...

> "Females" connotes reproductive capacity

Almost all bees are females.

Almost all of those lack reproductive capacity.

"Female", either as noun or an adjective, neither denotes nor connotes reproductive capacity, though it may connote reproductive role (though even then, only as an adjective modifying a species or some similar classification, because reproductive roles vary.)

It's use as a noun for a human is seen by some as divisive (compared to an adjective modifying "person") or dehumanizing (compared to "woman or girl"); OTOH, it is seen by others as less awkward than either of those constructions and more accurate when the intebt is not age-specific (thus, making neither "woman" nor "girl" alone appropriate) than any similarly-concise expression.

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by barleyworth »

gammarator wrote: post #129
acchow wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you talk about females like they are precious snowflakes?

Why do you talk about "females?" The word you are looking for is "women." ("Females" connotes reproductive capacity [1], which is seldom relevant, and is also applied to animals. "Women" are human beings.) [1] http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/69157?redirectedFrom=female#ei...

Fair point; I will try and avoid using "females" in the future.

FWIW, the main reason I used this phrasing was that I had already used the word "guys", but wanted to steer clear of the analogous word "girls". Using the word "women" seemed like I would be suggesting some sort of age/maturity dichotomy between "guys" and "women", and it seemed to me that "females" didn't have such a connotation.

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by Balgair »

rosser wrote: post #154
Balgair wrote: post #73

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Machiavelli outlined the choice in 'The Prince': To be loved to to be feared? Remember the the conclusion the Italian came to: Fear is more stable, become feared.

Yeah, I don't think The Prince was intended to be taken normatively .

By no means was I suggesting to take 'The Prince' as a manual, that would be dumb and really evil. The methods outlined in it can be seen in TK's actions. Well, that or (invoking Hanlon's Razor) they are just plain dumb.

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by Balgair »

saalweachter wrote: post #145
Balgair wrote: post #73

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Machiavelli outlined the choice in 'The Prince': To be loved to to be feared? Remember the the conclusion the Italian came to: Fear is more stable, become feared.

In his satirical work .

No, for real though, I thought Machiavelli said it was satirical after torture. Honestly, though, I don't actually know if is was intended as satire from the start. Was it?

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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Post by saalweachter »

Balgair wrote: post #189
saalweachter wrote: post #145

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In his satirical work .

No, for real though, I thought Machiavelli said it was satirical after torture. Honestly, though, I don't actually know if is was intended as satire from the start. Was it?

He wrote it shortly after being tortured by the Medici; it wasn't published until after Machiavelli's death [although it was likely circulated before then].
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