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Re: Show HN: A Webapp to Auto Apply for Jobs

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Unless those jobs don't pay >50k/yr. straight out of college most are going for low run entry jobs.

CS grads in good markets make significantly more than 50k/yr.

I'd be very interested to know about any market where they don't make significantly more than $50k/yr. Even in the town where I grew up (40,000 people in a dying state), new CS grads make more than that.

Re: Show HN: A Webapp to Auto Apply for Jobs

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I don't understand this. I'm a developer, I create products. I'm not a professional writer. For me this means you value >>presentation<< more than my skills, despite I won't be a professional writer in your company...

I'm really not talking about something lengthy. But I get 100s of applications for every job post I publish. Most people who apply are frankly not qualified. If you are qualified, write a few sentences. "Hey, I saw your post for [...]. I thought this looked great for me because I have worked on [...] and I am super excited to learn more about [....]". I am not asking for paragraphs, but show me you are interested. I…

I think hiring is completely broken. At least in IT. Developers don't understand HR people, and HR doesn't understand developers.

For me "Hey, I saw your post for [...]. I thought this looked great for me because I have worked on [...] and I am super excited to learn more about [....]" means absolutely nothing. Frankly, I do NOT know you or your company and in a job description there is nothing about the team, culture etc. But I have no other option just to make something up, because otherwise no one'll hire me.

Re: Show HN: A Webapp to Auto Apply for Jobs

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I agree, but also it is true that the mechanical process of actually filling in an application is very tedious. If that bit can be eliminated then it is definitely worth it. That said, I think you can apply to jobs with a single click on LinkedIn (and I assume StackOverflow?) so that has kind of been solved. Ish.

I've heard it said that if you send an application online, you're already screwed. Or, to put it another way: if the first person who sees your application is a computer or HR person, you're screwed.

Definitely not true. Most jobs are given to people that apply online.

Re: Show HN: A Webapp to Auto Apply for Jobs

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It is a little bit of both really but along a spectrum. If a person is really really good you don't care much about their resume. If they don't have relevant experience but spent some time on their resume it helps show interest. If you are fresh out of college, the second approach is probably all you have.

I understand that, but I don't see why interest should count for much. Out of two equal candidates, the interested one is probably better, but I don't know if interest is a good predictor of job performance... Maybe it is, though.

Interest is what gives someone the motivation to learn and improve themselves.

Re: Show HN: A Webapp to Auto Apply for Jobs

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I understand that, but I don't see why interest should count for much. Out of two equal candidates, the interested one is probably better, but I don't know if interest is a good predictor of job performance... Maybe it is, though.

Interest is what gives someone the motivation to learn and improve themselves.

I'm a professional. I don't have to be interested in what your company does. If you pay me my asking rate, I will do a damn good job at producing exactly what you need. If I have to learn and improve myself to do that, I will.

Re: Show HN: A Webapp to Auto Apply for Jobs

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I'm not interested in the generic "everybody." I'm intersted in accatyyc's experience specifically. Not every company bins generic applications. It would be interesting to see if accatyyc's company can afford to do so because they have a glut of qualified applicants or if they're artificially limiting their candidate pool for some other reason.

To expand on my other answer in regards to this - I wouldn't say we have a glut of qualified applicants. It's pretty hard to find the great developers, and the reason we bin the generic ones is that we have never found a fit through one of those. Also it simply takes too much time to move further with those applications. I'd rather be programming :)

Thanks for responding! This answer had one interesting tidbit the other one didn't have, which is:

> the reason we bin the generic ones is that we have never found a fit through one of those.

That's an interesting bit of pattern recognition and something I hadn't considered.

> I'd rather be programming :)

Haha, fair enough. :)

Re: Show HN: A Webapp to Auto Apply for Jobs

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> For others, who have no useful connections, it's possible to make these connections by cold-messaging people on LinkedIn, especially alumni from your school. This. If the job you're applying to pays >= 50k/year, you owe it to yourself to take 30 minutes or so before you apply and find a way to differentiate yourself and make a connection. Ideally you reach out to someone on the inside that you have a shared experie…

I've gone down that dead end. 1. Spend weeks researching the company, 2. Craft the perfect (after a few drafts) resume and cover letter tailored directly to that company, 3. Meticulously make sure all the online form fields filled in. Subsequently receive an auto-reply 10 minutes after you submit it with a generic "We considered your application and decided NO." E-mail. All it takes is a few of these, and I would be…

There's a middle ground between that and applying to "hundreds of jobs in under two minutes". What I do, what I assume most people do, is spend an hour hand-crafting the perfect response for the first application, and then use that as a template and spend five minutes tweaking it for each subsequent one.

Anything more than that would be better spent on things that improve your chances for every job you apply for (improving your resume, adding to your github, taking a course, etc).

Re: Show HN: A Webapp to Auto Apply for Jobs

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Hi guys, I built this after spending over 2 months applying to 100+ jobs on all the job boards and managing everything through a spreadsheet as a senior in college. I want to make the job seeking process easier for everyone so I built JobGen, a way to auto-apply to hundreds of jobs in 2 minutes. It's built with Rails on Heroku, and on the backend uses image recognition and DOM parsing to identify fields to submit you…

You may want a FAQ section or something that describes the onboarding process a little more in depth. My gut reaction when looking at the instructions is "Will it just send my information out the second I click submit?" then I realized I didn't read the word "Create profile" on the button and that step 2 is where the magic happens.

Having something like an animated gif or screencast that walks through the process would be invaluable. It would also likely be good to have a privacy policy. I've been evaluating things like this and if I can figure out it isn't the right fit without jumping through the hoops or sharing personal information it would definitely be preferred.

Re: Show HN: A Webapp to Auto Apply for Jobs

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I've heard it said that if you send an application online, you're already screwed. Or, to put it another way: if the first person who sees your application is a computer or HR person, you're screwed.

Definitely not true. Most jobs are given to people that apply online.

That's false in my anecdotal experience. It's also false according to common wisdom, so it seems that most people share my anecdote.

I couldn't find any data suggesting that it's true, but I did find this survey that backs up my assessment: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/new-survey-reveals-85-all-job...

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