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What is the oldest living organism on the planet?

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Re: What is the oldest living organism on the planet?

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There is an interesting video from It's Okay to be Smart on this topic;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgspUYDwnzQ

It seems they point to a group of bacteria living under Siberian Permafrost for the past half million years. As the video also points out; not in suspended animation, they're rather alive and repairing themselves.

Re: What is the oldest living organism on the planet?

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The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe also discussed the 80,000 year old clonal tree in a recent episode (I think the latest?). http://www.theskepticsguide.org/podcast/sgu

Another Skeptic's Guide listener on HN! I've posted various comments linking to SGU segments or Steven Novella posts, but I have yet to see anyone else do so.

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Re: What is the oldest living organism on the planet?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe also discussed the 80,000 year old clonal tree in a recent episode (I think the latest?). http://www.theskepticsguide.org/podcast/sgu

Another Skeptic's Guide listener on HN! I've posted various comments linking to SGU segments or Steven Novella posts, but I have yet to see anyone else do so.

I heard about it here, actually, in some podcast thread a year or two ago. It rapidly became my favorite podcast. 90 minutes every week!

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We're arguably the least cavalier about taking life of any life on earth. In the wild, life is so cheap and valueless that when we witness unspeakable acts of horrific wild violence, we have to condition it: wild is wild, nature is nature, human expectations and morality don't apply.

> We're arguably the least cavalier about taking life of any life on earth. Fungi beat us in this respect. Most of them feed exclusively on dead matter.

But those that do? A fungal infection leading to death is a slow, horrible way to die.

Re: What is the oldest living organism on the planet?

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A related question which has always intrigued me:

Can long-living organisms, or hard-coded behavior across generations of short-lived organisms, be used to transfer data or preserve knowledge across incredible stretches of time?

For example, the rings within trees that live for thousands of years.

Or, the elaborate art made by creatures like the Japanese Puffer Fish. [0]

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1PID91sEW8

Re: What is the oldest living organism on the planet?

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It seems that one could argue that the first single-celled organism has never died. Single-celled organisms reproduce by dividing, and there's no distinction between parent and offspring, right? So if any offspring survives, then the original organism arguably has not died.

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How cavalier we are about taking life of other species.

It is just as cavalier and anthropocentric to impose a deliberate ecological aesthetic based on the idea of preservation. Cyanobacteria oxygenated the world and caused mass extinction of most Earth species. Life moved on.

Re: What is the oldest living organism on the planet?

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I've been under the impression for many years that the oldest living organism on the planet was the giant underground fungus in Oregon. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-... It seems to have the title of "largest" locked down, but it's a viable contender for "oldest" as well. It's at least worth a mention anyway.

I think clonal colonies like Pando are some of the the oldest LARGE organisms. But can one say they are organisms? Probably a few rotifers and tardigrades are the oldest organisms since they can lie dormant for many years and then be reanimated with water. Perhaps millions of years!!!

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-living_organis...,

> "Humongous Fungus", an individual of the fungal species Armillaria solidipes in the Malheur National Forest, is thought to be between 2,000 and 8,500 years old.[33][34] It is thought to be the world's largest organism by area, at 2,384 acres (965 hectares).

So it may be the oldest organism, but it also has the crown for largest.

Re: What is the oldest living organism on the planet?

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A related question which has always intrigued me: Can long-living organisms, or hard-coded behavior across generations of short-lived organisms, be used to transfer data or preserve knowledge across incredible stretches of time? For example, the rings within trees that live for thousands of years. Or, the elaborate art made by creatures like the Japanese Puffer Fish. [0] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1PID91sEW…

DNA is probably your best bet for bottom up approach.

Its surprisingly difficult data to find and the rate probably varies a lot, but wikipedia claims:

"The human germline mutation rate is approximately 0.5×10−9 per basepair per year"

My RAID array does better, polaroid pictures somewhat worse, etc.

A bit error rate of 1e-9/yr is something that can be worked around over a lifespan but probably not over a million years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation_rate

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