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Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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I could be missing some shady history, but off the top of my head how about Square? Edit: Dropbox, Craigslist, GitHub, PayPal, Instagram, Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter Anyone feel free to jump in if I'm ignoring any exploitation or shadiness. Bad examples: Spotify and Snapchat.

Snapchat? The early version of the app was literally only used by sexting teenagers in Orange County high schools.

Reasonable point.

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These are consumer protection laws in name only. The laws/rules/regulations that Uber is breaking are first, foremost, and pretty much exclusively protecting the taxi industry.

If they really believed that then they should have fought those laws in the political arena rather than just ignoring them.

It doesn't follow or at least I don't see how.

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That aggressive nature is both the reason they have problems and the reason they have been so successful.

Re: being successful because they have an aggressive internal culture, is that really true?

Exactly. Let's continue this conversation after a couple years.

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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I think it's a timing thing. From the boards point of view, there is value for Tk to take leave and value for Uber to have someone else at the helm.

Although from TK's point of view it would really suck. It's like loosing your mother and a child.

I read somewhere that the best thing to do to cope with extreme personal tragedies is to keep oneself busy... what's better way to keep oneself busy than to work.

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Culture comes from the top and Uber's is pretty rotten. I did an interview there this year and it was the most aggressive questioning I've ever had. Two of 5 interviewers were really in my face while architecting systems; it was bizarre and I almost walked out. Nothing compared to the 'cultural' interview where there gave me an example of them knowingly breaking the law because "they knew they were right" and then as…

FWIW, I had a very similar experience and have a friend who had the same. Very off-putting. I was in the second round on-site and more or less felt like I probably had the job in the bag, still at the end when I met w/ the hiring manager I told him I appreciated the time but it wasn't for me. And wow, that pissed him off. Good riddance.

Sometimes I wish I had the energy to follow through all the way to the end of a process even when I know I'm not interested in working somewhere.

Waiting till they give you an offer and turning them down is probably the only way to get companies with terrible interview processes to treat their own interview behavior as signal.

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If they really believed that then they should have fought those laws in the political arena rather than just ignoring them.

It doesn't follow or at least I don't see how.

You don't see how a multinational corporation running roughshod over a democratically elected government is a bad thing?

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He presided over a culture of widespread sexual harassment that has been echoed repeatedly by multiple employees and you don't really understand why he's being criticized? Cool story, bro.

Uber has 12000 employees; 20 were reprimanded for sexual harassment. That's 0.001%

Isn't the problem more about how the company handled the complaints? Your record on shutting that stuff down once it's reported should be flawless - Uber's isn't.

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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I really don't buy the Travis Kalanik hate. Yeah, Uber started out as your typical SV unicorn (bro warts and all). Yeah, Uber's entire business model can be described as "grey-area" at best and its business practices as sometimes exploitative. But this is exactly how you're supposed to run a massively successful startup in its first decade. This is exactly how FB started out. And this follows every rule in the startu…

But this is exactly how you're supposed to run a massively successful startup in its first decade. This is exactly how FB started out. And this follows every rule in the startup book to a tee.

None of these things are even remotely true. Uber is treated the way it is because the Uber culture and ethos have been uniquely shitty among startup unicorns/tech giants. At this point, I grant you that it's become an overblown witch hunt, but this developed over the course of years. Travis had every opportunity to see the reputation they were building, and he didn't give a shit, so now this is what happens.

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> There was literally nothing wrong with the email There were at least two things wrong with the email, from my perspective as a guy who's been around plenty of benign bro culture. 1. Explicitly mentioning "sex" as opposed to "relationship" or "dating", and talking about it so casually, sets a very aggressive tone. 20-something guys with lots of hormones will definitely hear that tone and push hard for sex during the…

Why do you talk about females like they are precious snowflakes?

Why do you talk about "females?" The word you are looking for is "women."

("Females" connotes reproductive capacity [1], which is seldom relevant, and is also applied to animals. "Women" are human beings.)

[1] http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/69157?redirectedFrom=female#ei...

Re: Uber CEO to take leave

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You are not supposed to run a massively successful startup by blatantly breaking every single consumer protection law that gets in the way of your profit margin. The e-mail by itself isn't the only problem. It's that it's just one line in a list of unethical, illegal or abusive behaviour that's as long as his arm. Keep in mind - this is also the guy that stole money from the IRS (By funding his previous company with…

These are consumer protection laws in name only. The laws/rules/regulations that Uber is breaking are first, foremost, and pretty much exclusively protecting the taxi industry.

I'm glad that you feel confident that no background checks, no vehicle inspection checks, no in-between-ride insurance, no transparency into surge pricing, no adherence to accessibility requirements, as well as getting grey-balled off the system (If Uber suspects you work for a municipal government or law enforcement) are run-arounds to spurious, burdensome, and unnecessary laws.

I mean, I have the unreasonable expectation that my taxi drivers aren't rapists, or haven't had recent DUIs, that their insurance will cover them while they are on the job, and that the ADA will come down like a metric tonne of bricks on them if they refuse to pick up disabled passengers... But perhaps that's too much to ask from a radical world-changing inspired baller.

(As with the rest of the transportation industry, the regulations require all those things have been written in blood.)

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