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Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Than Restricting Calories

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Re: Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Than Restricting Calories

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It's really "Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss" for people who have Type 2 diabetes AKA are already eating very unhealthy diets, and versus the control group eating diet X. That's two separate enormous caveats. I want to see a vegetarian diet for weight loss vs a high fat high protein meat based diet, a la: http://www.empiri.ca/p/eat-meat-not-too-little-mostly-fat.ht... > The vegetarian diet (∼60…

It's hard to read a ketogenic diet page that begins with a long disclaimer about you only you are responsible for your health and diet and "we can't take any responsibility for the consequences", and then conclude that the result represent good advice for the overall health of average people. Normal people are not going to tune their diet by measuring their blood chemistry. Edit to say that the point may be that thos…

>Normal people are not going to tune their diet by measuring their blood chemistry.

Not consciously, but that's what normal people already do.

Re: Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Than Restricting Calories

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Does not one lead to the other? A diet that is vegetarian would seem to have less calories overall. What a strange headline.

Why would a vegetarian diet have less calories? I could eat cups of rice drowned in olive oil and suck down a gallon of Coca Cola a day and I'd still be Vegan.

Re: Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Than Restricting Calories

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Vegan, even.

You can't have a vegan all-Oreo diet... Oreos and milk forever go together!

Embrace the goodness that is oat milk! Or almond milk. I'm not even a strict vegetarian, just try to eat meat as little as possible but these taste much better for me nowadays than cow milk, I'm not used to it anymore and it tastes weird.

Re: Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Than Restricting Calories

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Throwing another anecdote on the pile: I've been vegetarian for 2 years and have zero perceptible changes to weight or muscle mass (I don't take supplements either).

another anecdote here: I went pescatarian 1.5 years ago and have put on 10-20 pounds. It's really been hard (for me) to feel full without those chicken breasts I used to make and the occasional steak. Fish simply doesn't keep as long. I end up eating lots of junk food :( I don't think it's a bad idea. I just need to get more prepared, clever and disciplined. I actually wasn't looking to lose weight at all, just be he…

Preparation is key for me. It's so easy to backpedal into junk food if you don't have a healthier alternative ready to go. There's just so much junk out there.

I do meal/snack prep on Sundays, which goes a long way. I eat less grab-and-go junk and I save money too.

Re: Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Than Restricting Calories

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Does not one lead to the other? A diet that is vegetarian would seem to have less calories overall. What a strange headline.

Why would a vegetarian diet have less calories? I could eat cups of rice drowned in olive oil and suck down a gallon of Coca Cola a day and I'd still be Vegan.

It's less dense, so you generally feel more full than if you eat more dense foods like meats. That's just personal experience though.

Re: Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Than Restricting Calories

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Why would a vegetarian diet have less calories? I could eat cups of rice drowned in olive oil and suck down a gallon of Coca Cola a day and I'd still be Vegan.

It's less dense, so you generally feel more full than if you eat more dense foods like meats. That's just personal experience though.

A pound of rice and a pound of meat contain equivalent calories.

I do agree with your experience though. Throw a bit of squash and onions in with your bland rice and you'll feel bloated in no time.

Re: Vegetarian Diets May Be More Effective for Weight Loss Than Restricting Calories

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It's less dense, so you generally feel more full than if you eat more dense foods like meats. That's just personal experience though.

A pound of rice and a pound of meat contain equivalent calories. I do agree with your experience though. Throw a bit of squash and onions in with your bland rice and you'll feel bloated in no time.

But a pound of rice takes up more physical volume than a pound of meat, right?

I also would have thought that meat was more energy sense given the fat content, but that is fascinating!

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