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Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

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Re: Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

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post #9

Negotiate a small up front bonus, 2-4 weeks of paid vacation in the immediate future, at a minimum, and then take the deal. Use the r&r to recharge, and the acquisition to bolster your track record. Start something new once you vest.

Thanks for the comment. That seems like a good deal to me. Do you have any tips for the negotiation?

Re: Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

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post #9

Negotiate a small up front bonus, 2-4 weeks of paid vacation in the immediate future, at a minimum, and then take the deal. Use the r&r to recharge, and the acquisition to bolster your track record. Start something new once you vest.

Thanks for the comment. That seems like a good deal to me. Do you have any tips for the negotiation?

Find someone whose job it is to negotiate on your behalf. For the same reason you wouldn't ask a lawyer to build a SaaS.

Re: Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

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post #7

The terms of the deal allow us to mostly pay back our investors in full and would line us up with great jobs. It is not the exit we dreamed of but it gives us a nice story for the future and allows us to "wipe our hands clean". Given the amount of stress you are dealing with, this sounds like a good thing to me. You get to undo the damage this has done to your finances, I assume it also would let you get the surgery…

We have been amazingly blessed to get as far as we have so I think I'm hesitant because there is a chance that we can make this work despite my burn out and personal desire for stability. The reasons for accepting would be personal and although we would be able to return most of our investments, this is not what we set out to do. My main fear is limping out of this a few years from now. With the money we have raised,…

Let me suggest you sit down with a piece of paper and write up four to six scenarios. Either best and worst for both choices, or best, worst and "most likely" for both scenarios. You may find that one choice has better outcomes in all cases or that the worst case scenario for one is so bad that it makes no sense to hope for the best case scenario, knowing you will live in dread of it possibly going the other way.

The other thing you can try to do is arrange a "third option." Can you get a break, even a short one, so you can get some rest and make this decision under less psychological pressure?

My dad was diagnosed with a clot in his leg when I was 17 and was told they wanted to amputate. He said "Can't we try something else first?" He was told they could, but odds were poor it would work. He wanted to try it anyway. He got to keep his leg.

If there is some way to say "no" to all the worst case scenarios -- to get some breathing room and try to make a saner decision -- that is the way to go.

I hope that makes some sense. It may not be very well explained.

Re: Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

#14
post #9

Negotiate a small up front bonus, 2-4 weeks of paid vacation in the immediate future, at a minimum, and then take the deal. Use the r&r to recharge, and the acquisition to bolster your track record. Start something new once you vest.

Thanks for the comment. That seems like a good deal to me. Do you have any tips for the negotiation?

If there the acquisition price has a scheduled payout, don't put too much weight on any dollar amount that doesn't get paid out immediately as cash. You could get fired, or decide to quit, post-acquisition on day 2. Know what that means to walk away earlier than planned.

Also, having sold a company, I can't stress enough the value of having a good lawyer handle the legal bits. The last thing you wanna be dealing with when tire & grumpy is trying to find the loophole about how you could get screwed in a thick jumble of legalese.

Also, drink an emergency beer. You've earned it.

Re: Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

#15
Investors will always tell you that they want big multiples on their investment in order for their fund economics to work. They are right. They will also however concurrently never, ever be mad at someone for returning their money. (And in doing so, you'll be able to raise money again, much easier.)

The harsh criticism against acquihires is mostly reserved for companies who raise too much, too fast and/or lavishly waste money and opportunities available to them. That doesn't sound like you at all.

Re: Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

#16
You reached the point where you hate your project. It happens when you burnout after spending countless hours working on your idea. You already have the money to build a team, investors are backing you up. Take a 2 week vacation Alone (empty your brain, get some fresh air, don't bring the internet with you, go somewhere cheap and isolated up in the mountains).

Then when you come back, spend a week brainstorming with your co-founder on a new idea (pivot). Prepare a few slides, setup a meeting with your investors and ask for their support.

If they don't like it, sell.

Re: Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

#17
post #9

Negotiate a small up front bonus, 2-4 weeks of paid vacation in the immediate future, at a minimum, and then take the deal. Use the r&r to recharge, and the acquisition to bolster your track record. Start something new once you vest.

Thanks for the comment. That seems like a good deal to me. Do you have any tips for the negotiation?

I'm an M&A advisor and my wife has been a PE investor for 10+ years. If your expected payout is $1M+, we might be able to help negotiate (our fee is low digit %'s). My value proposition is simple -> I'll get you more money than you would be able to do on your own and I only succeed if you do. My contact info is in my profile if you're interested.

Re: Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

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You need time off. You need surgery and recovery time, and then you need some more time off post-recovery.

I say this as somebody who has recently returned to work after 2 months away due to surgery and needing rehabilitation post-surgery that was very intensive. I'm still feeling burned out, and I'm hoping to take a couple of weeks out in a month or two to just regroup and gather my energy back.

You need to figure out whether you can take some time out before making a decision, or if you need to make the decision now and then take the time off. If the acquiring company won't let you have enough time off (or more depending on the surgery), well, that's a problem, and you need to talk to your co-founder about whether you can do it whilst in the company.

The absolute top priority in all of this is your health: you can't pivot, sell or work for somebody else if you're not well. Deal with the burn out and surgery as an urgent priority, everything else is secondary.

Re: Ask HN: Tired founders facing acquihire – please advise

#20
post #7

The terms of the deal allow us to mostly pay back our investors in full and would line us up with great jobs. It is not the exit we dreamed of but it gives us a nice story for the future and allows us to "wipe our hands clean". Given the amount of stress you are dealing with, this sounds like a good thing to me. You get to undo the damage this has done to your finances, I assume it also would let you get the surgery…

We have been amazingly blessed to get as far as we have so I think I'm hesitant because there is a chance that we can make this work despite my burn out and personal desire for stability. The reasons for accepting would be personal and although we would be able to return most of our investments, this is not what we set out to do. My main fear is limping out of this a few years from now. With the money we have raised,…

You have been focussing on this thing for a long long time. In your own words you think it's a long shot.

Now imagine you're an 3rd party investor. You have $200k "return", health benefits, vacation, savings in one year on the one hand and a startup with your size stake with your current idea on the other. Which one would u pick?

As a selfish investor which would u pick?

I don't know the terms of your deal but you should be able to sit down and make an apples to apple comparison.

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