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Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by coding123 »

briffle wrote: post #9
coding123 wrote: post #6

I keep wondering what will happen on AWS or Google when available public v4 IPs run out/low... Start charging $15 per address?

Google already charges you for reserved IP's that are not in use in their cloud.

Same with AWS, but I'm referring to in-use cost, just curious if that's coming...

Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by olq »

coding123 wrote: post #6

I keep wondering what will happen on AWS or Google when available public v4 IPs run out/low... Start charging $15 per address?

Well they have already ran out and the big old companies have their own reserved ipv4 ranges. They even buy other tech dinosaurs for their reserved ipv4 blocks in the order of $10 per adress. [1]

[1] http://www.gtri.com/how-to-buy-or-sell-ipv4-addresses/

Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by toss1941 »

I think of IPv6 like driving a stick shift car that you skip a gear with. If you're lucky, the engine won't stall but even if it doesn't, you'll be accelerating very slowly until the RPMs catch back up to where they should be. In IPv6's case they skipped 3 gears because they knew the car couldn't possibly stall, but here we are, barely accelerating after all this time.

Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by koenigdavidmj »

lwhalen wrote: post #8

In Seattle and surrounding areas, Comcast is more or less the only game in town (with Centurylink a distant, distant second) if you're not in one of a dozen high-rise apartment buildings. For all their marketing around 'extensive IPv6 rollout', I've found their deployment to be hideously broken and their support staff deeply ignorant. Been here 3 years, moved once, and it's just terrible. My latest foray into trying…

Your other option is Frontier FIOS in some of the suburbs, where there is still no intention of rolling out v6.

Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by ghaff »

olq wrote: post #12
coding123 wrote: post #6

I keep wondering what will happen on AWS or Google when available public v4 IPs run out/low... Start charging $15 per address?

Well they have already ran out and the big old companies have their own reserved ipv4 ranges. They even buy other tech dinosaurs for their reserved ipv4 blocks in the order of $10 per adress. [1] [1] http://www.gtri.com/how-to-buy-or-sell-ipv4-addresses/

Amazon bought up to half of MIT's /8 addresses.

Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by jcrites »

coding123 wrote: post #6

I keep wondering what will happen on AWS or Google when available public v4 IPs run out/low... Start charging $15 per address?

MIT recently sold part of their IPv4 address space to AWS (the block 18.145.0.0/16):

http://www.networkworld.com/article/3191503/internet/mit-sel...

https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-18-145-0-0-1.html

According to the IPv4 Market Group, prices per address have trended around $8 - $12 (prices vary by block size):

http://ipv4marketgroup.com/ipv4-pricing-in-a-post-arin-runou...

Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by HankB99 »

I started to read the article but found the font too distracting. tl;dr I guess.

I see that my devices get IPV6 and IPV4 addresses. Beyond that I don't know "if it works." From outside my firewall (pfSense) I wouldn't know how to access resources within (which are walled off in the first place.)

Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by asdfaoeu »

HankB99 wrote: post #17

I started to read the article but found the font too distracting. tl;dr I guess. I see that my devices get IPV6 and IPV4 addresses. Beyond that I don't know "if it works." From outside my firewall (pfSense) I wouldn't know how to access resources within (which are walled off in the first place.)

> From outside my firewall (pfSense) I wouldn't know how to access resources within (which are walled off in the first place.)

By accessing the IP address they are assigned?

Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by Retr0spectrum »

avodonosov wrote: post #10

Don't forget you can always use IPv6 as there are gates to 6th internet over 4th internet. After all the words Inter Net mean this technology can work over and between any network, be it Ethernet, Wi-Fi, Token Ring or whatever. And of course it can work over IP of another version.

What's the best way to set up and use such an ipv6 gateway? After a bit of fiddling, I managed to set something up with sshuttle, but it was a bit of a hack.

Re: 16 Years with IPv6

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Post by lumisota »

coding123 wrote: post #6

I keep wondering what will happen on AWS or Google when available public v4 IPs run out/low... Start charging $15 per address?

They already charge on AWS. The cost of 1 IP is built-in to the hourly cost, with extras and those attached to stopped instances charged explicitly.
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