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Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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The vast majority of these are App Academy (a/A) programming bootcamp graduates, which explains why only 10% have CS degrees. Bootcamp graduates are probably not representative of all CS grads, or even most devs, so take this with a grain of salt.

It looks like App Academy grads vastly out-earn their CS-degreed counterparts. I wonder if that is representative of App Academy. If so, that is impressive.

App Academy is extremely selective (less than 3%). Also there is probably sample bias, since these are all self-reported.

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If you are ok commuting to Cambridge MA, you can get the SF figure +/- you cited as developer (assuming proper skills/experience) and still live in NH. Not a great commute, but I know a few folks who commute from NH. If you're interested, my team is hiring :)

I'm just moving out of the cambridge area, but still have friends in the area. Can you share your company name?

For my team you can email me at "jobs.av (at) outlook.com", but you can see from glassdor same salaries at Microsoft,Gooogle,Amazon are hiring in Kendall square.

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Honestly was expecting a lot more, considering the salaries people throw around on Hacker News. Using http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-l... the adjusted value for $136,000 in SF to where I live in New York is a decent chunk less. Especially being in a DevOps/Systems role, and not a Software Dev one.

Everyone on HN makes $200K+, drives a BMW and has a supermodel for a partner. Whenever salary comes up, there's always someone here who knows someone whose brother's girlfriend's room-mate makes $400K at Google, and therefore it's normal for a Software Engineer to make this much. The averages in this spreadsheet seem to agree roughly with average/median for the Bay Area as reported by Glassdoor[1] and Payscale[2]. 1:…

Fwiw, it's very possible to make ~190k cash out of school. Just get a job at IMO.im.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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$110K as a CTO does seem low to me. Do you mind if I ask where you live?

I earn far less than that, as CTO of a Southern California e-commerce company. The salaries in this spreadsheet seem incredibly high for one year of experience.

From what I can tell, these are on par with new grad comp. So it seems getting a degree is useless.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Honestly was expecting a lot more, considering the salaries people throw around on Hacker News. Using http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-l... the adjusted value for $136,000 in SF to where I live in New York is a decent chunk less. Especially being in a DevOps/Systems role, and not a Software Dev one.

You shouldn't. Everyone lies about salary or includes their options at some fictions value as part of their compensation. The reality is that the number of people making over $200k is just not that many. Very senior people and directors of certain departments, sure. And you've got some $250k+ VIPs out there. Some. For everyone else, even those in the Bay Area, it caps around $180k, or $10k/mo after tax. Stay for long…

False. I along with many other engineers I know are programmers making well north of $250k annually (total comp).

Please stop spreading false information and harming people here. Go get a software engineer job offer from Google or Facebook and then get back to us.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Here's another one that has 3600 salaries: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1a1Df6dg2Pby1UoNl...

This data doesn't seem too reliably sourced. Sorting by ascending years of experience shows negative numbers with the top entry being -9001 and an annual base pay of "a trap a day makes the boner go away"...

Haha, I think I know who that is; they were in my cohort. They had other problems in their life and I think have had trouble getting on their feet. It doesn't help that they didn't stay in NYC/SF upon completion and instead moved back to podunk, where there aren't as many tech jobs.

Really smart person, but some serious issues.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

#168

Honestly was expecting a lot more, considering the salaries people throw around on Hacker News. Using http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-l... the adjusted value for $136,000 in SF to where I live in New York is a decent chunk less. Especially being in a DevOps/Systems role, and not a Software Dev one.

Everyone on HN makes $200K+, drives a BMW and has a supermodel for a partner. Whenever salary comes up, there's always someone here who knows someone whose brother's girlfriend's room-mate makes $400K at Google, and therefore it's normal for a Software Engineer to make this much. The averages in this spreadsheet seem to agree roughly with average/median for the Bay Area as reported by Glassdoor[1] and Payscale[2]. 1:…

Glassdoor has an entry level listing: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-entry-level...

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Should this really be publicly editable? Won't it just become a jumbled mess?

The goal here is to make it easy for some one to add data. I protected the initial 100+ salaries (Feature in Google Docs). An plan on locking in rows as more people contribute. The other option was to do a google form but would of been an extra step.

Why are they mostly from the same bootcamp?

Why does it say "over 100+" when there are 91 responses?

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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No, a lot of people don't. A few people do. Small consultancies and independent app developers can bring in $250k+, but not necessarily year over year. And they are usually doing a lot more than just engineering. Maybe I should clarify: The notion of a $250k+ engineering "salary" as normal is a myth. I live in San Francisco an I don't actually know a single person who falls into this bucket. I know a bunch of people…

SDE2s at amazon in Seattle can make over $200k - so I imagine a mid level engineer at google could be making over 250. Not as common I'll bet but imo it must be common enough.

I would be astonished if a L4 SWE at Google was making less than 250k (total comp)
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