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Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by throwaway2016a »

Cyclone_ wrote: post #101
throwaway2016a wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Location does make a huge difference. I make $110,000 as a CTO with 20 years experience but if you calculate for cost of living differences that is $164,162 in San Fransisco. Although I'm probable still underpaid if #1 is true... some of these salaries are approaching that.

$110K as a CTO does seem low to me. Do you mind if I ask where you live?

New Hampshire. But commuting distance to Boston, MA since I live on the border and Boston is pretty close to the border.

I started as a Senior Software Engineer and kept getting promoted but not getting any higher pay. As a Senior Software Engineer in 2013 it was great pay. CTO in 2017... not so much.

For various reasons I'm eating the lower pay though. It's rough but I'm ok with it for now.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by superplussed »

linkregister wrote: post #96

These seem higher than most of my colleagues straight out of very reputable CS degree programs. This doesn't make much sense since it appears most of these a/A (App Academy) finishers don't have relevant work experience and degrees. It looks like App Academy really helps its participants negotiate salary and interview well. A few people have fairly senior titles. The reason for that isn't apparent.

Yeah, the senior titles for people with 1 or 1.5 years out of bootcamp don't make any sense at all, and cast doubt on the validity of the data. Come on, we've all worked with smart people that are a year or two in to being a developer, and you can't label them "senior" no matter how smart they are.

Is it possible that someone from one or more bootcamps is fluffing the data, knowing that it will get posted on HN?

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by daxorid »

Cyclone_ wrote: post #101
throwaway2016a wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Location does make a huge difference. I make $110,000 as a CTO with 20 years experience but if you calculate for cost of living differences that is $164,162 in San Fransisco. Although I'm probable still underpaid if #1 is true... some of these salaries are approaching that.

$110K as a CTO does seem low to me. Do you mind if I ask where you live?

I earn far less than that, as CTO of a Southern California e-commerce company.

The salaries in this spreadsheet seem incredibly high for one year of experience.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by no_news_is »

RodericDay wrote: post #47

Pardon my ignorance of the google ecosystem but... how can I download this spreadsheet?

I was waiting for an answer to your comment, but I figured it out:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JR4KrVH1dygniLiLFAMT...

Choices for format are:

  xlsx
  ods
  zip (Web page .html, zipped)
  csv
  tsv (tab-separated values)
  pdf
Copy & paste appears to work fairly well, too.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by linkregister »

mahyarm wrote: post #85
mbrzuzy wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was it worth it with the huge increase in cost of living?

I'm from BC, so it was actually a decrease in the cost of living. Seattle had cheaper consumer goods, cheaper gas, less taxes and cheaper housing. SF is a bit more expensive, but houses cost about the same as Vancouver while rent is higher.

Vancouver is a bit of an anomaly with its low salaries and astronomical housing costs.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by superplussed »

learc83 wrote: post #80

Look at the company names, I'm not buying this for graduates of a 12 week bootcamp. Either this bootcamp is very selective in who they admit, or they are very selective in which salaries they show. The only way you're passing multiple rounds of interviews at google/facebook/big name sv company after 12 weeks of study is if you already had a significant knowledge base before hand, you're some kind of algorithms savant…

I'm not buying it either. I think some people are trying to inflate the perceived value of the bootcamps.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by linkregister »

negrit wrote: post #59

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Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by sidlls »

throwaway2016a wrote: post #75
marcell wrote: post #42

1. These salaries are for Bootcamp graduates, which means they'll be lower than someone with 5 years experience in programming. 2. These salaries are likely for the Bay Area, where a 1br apartment can cost you $3k+, and your tax rate will be 35% (state + federal). It's not comparable to places with lower tax rates and lower cost of living.

Location does make a huge difference. I make $110,000 as a CTO with 20 years experience but if you calculate for cost of living differences that is $164,162 in San Fransisco. Although I'm probable still underpaid if #1 is true... some of these salaries are approaching that.

That seems low. I have friends in engineering (not software, more like aerospace) with much less seniority and in low cost areas who are paid about the same. I live in the Bay Area and am a "Principal Engineer" and my salary is more than the adjusted figure you quoted.

Then again, as CTO it surely is the case your bonus and equity grants result in net comp that is more than that.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Post by linkregister »

timbuckley wrote: post #18

The vast majority of these are App Academy (a/A) programming bootcamp graduates, which explains why only 10% have CS degrees. Bootcamp graduates are probably not representative of all CS grads, or even most devs, so take this with a grain of salt.

It looks like App Academy grads vastly out-earn their CS-degreed counterparts. I wonder if that is representative of App Academy. If so, that is impressive.
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