Salaries should not be secret. They don't have to be open to tying someone to a particular salary but I think there should be some law that mandates a greater transparency here. If economics taught me anything it's that the worst decisions are made when someone else has more information than you
Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads
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#821. These salaries are for Bootcamp graduates, which means they'll be lower than someone with 5 years experience in programming. 2. These salaries are likely for the Bay Area, where a 1br apartment can cost you $3k+, and your tax rate will be 35% (state + federal). It's not comparable to places with lower tax rates and lower cost of living.
Location does make a huge difference. I make $110,000 as a CTO with 20 years experience but if you calculate for cost of living differences that is $164,162 in San Fransisco. Although I'm probable still underpaid if #1 is true... some of these salaries are approaching that.
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#83For comparison see average Police and Firefighter salaries in California: http://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article2573210...
A police lieutenant in Mountain View averages 198k
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#84Is it only me or aren't these wages crazy high for people with only 0-2 years of experience? I started as a fresh software engineer in Tokyo this year, and I'm making around $37k a year. I think that newbies earn about that much in Helsinki, Finland, too, where I'm originally from.
Many people attending bootcamps have prior programming experience.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's because you live in Canada. Canadian devs get paid a lot less. $80k/yr CAD is typical for a sr dev there. I moved down to the USA for the big raise.
Was it worth it with the huge increase in cost of living?
I'm from BC, so it was actually a decrease in the cost of living. Seattle had cheaper consumer goods, cheaper gas, less taxes and cheaper housing. SF is a bit more expensive, but houses cost about the same as Vancouver while rent is higher.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
California is financial fairy tale land in every way. Wages, taxes, real estate, and cost of living are all crazy high.
How strong financial "gradients" there are around the Bay area? Do people try to come up with all kinds of remote work scenarios etc. to be able to earn the same wages without having to pay for living there? How do people who are not software engineers, manage? Are all wages high?
> How do people who are not software engineers, manage?
With great difficulty [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8].
[1] http://www.newgeography.com/content/005501-the-demographics-... [2] https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/11/03/east-palo-alt... [3] http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valleys-prosperity-pa... [4] http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2015/03/opinion/ctl-child-pov... [5] https://newrepublic.com/article/124476/dispossessed-land-dre... [6] https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/02/the-pla... [7] https://www.thenation.com/article/bridging-silicon-valleys-w... [8] http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/25/news/economy/middle-class-si...
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#87These numbers are interesting, but could non-US folks please stop crying about the crazy high absolute numbers before doing some basic math and adjusting for other metrics besides total salary?
I always use Numbeo (https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/) to compare cost of living, and quite often find that I would need to double my salary to have the same standard of living in SV or NYC, which would put me right in the middle of this list. But, and that's the bigger point here, this does not factor in that I could never live in places like the Valley, or work at some of the places on this list without being unhappy most of the time. I know this sounds harsh towards some folks here, but if you're happy where you currently are please do the math and really be honest to yourself about your priorities. Often you'll find that the grass isn't greener on the other side...
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#88And here I am, living in Germany and getting told that asking for 60,000€ p.a. as a software engineer with 11 years working experience is waaay too much for most companies. Only the big ones like Bosch, Porsche, Daimler (all non-IT companies) and a few other exceptions will pay enough for a sustainable life.
At the same time we hear about regular reports about "shortage of skilled professionals" here in Germany, it's laughable, it's because no one wants to pay enough money, because cheap students are good enough. And I have to clean up their mess...
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where do you live? I did brooklyn -> oakland and it said that oakland is %15 cheaper. These are jr. dev salaries
Rochester 43.76% cheaper. Super cheap living here, tons of good food, cocktails, great lakes, and 15 minutes to get anywhere across the entire city.
Are computers, cars, overseas trips, etc...43.76% cheaper also?
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