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This makes me want to cry. I'm below all but one of these entries. 30 years experience + full stack + dba. All because of where I live (small northern ontario town -remotism?) and likley ageism (57). I should be getting paid MORE because of where I live.

It's because you live in Canada. Canadian devs get paid a lot less. $80k/yr CAD is typical for a sr dev there. I moved down to the USA for the big raise.

Was it worth it with the huge increase in cost of living?

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Is it only me or aren't these wages crazy high for people with only 0-2 years of experience? I started as a fresh software engineer in Tokyo this year, and I'm making around $37k a year. I think that newbies earn about that much in Helsinki, Finland, too, where I'm originally from.

My understanding is that Japanese salaries are extremely low compared to just about everywhere else, except southern Europe (Portugal, Spain).

Is this correct?

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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You're kidding me. I'm in the UK, 10 years dev experience, BSc Computer Science. Every single salary in that list is higher than mine.

Honestly, looking at the list and knowing how much people get paid at Google.(from personal experience) I found the salaries to be quite low in total compensation.

I know fresh grads in the NYC area who have been offered $130k/year in total compensation from Google and Facebook. I've also known several engineers at Google making in the range of $300k-$500k/year.

There's going to be self-reporting bias here, but these salaries look right to me for bootcamp grads getting offers from the big tech companies.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Is it only me or aren't these wages crazy high for people with only 0-2 years of experience? I started as a fresh software engineer in Tokyo this year, and I'm making around $37k a year. I think that newbies earn about that much in Helsinki, Finland, too, where I'm originally from.

California is financial fairy tale land in every way. Wages, taxes, real estate, and cost of living are all crazy high.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Is it only me or aren't these wages crazy high for people with only 0-2 years of experience? I started as a fresh software engineer in Tokyo this year, and I'm making around $37k a year. I think that newbies earn about that much in Helsinki, Finland, too, where I'm originally from.

It's just the Bay Area. Coming from the Bay Area these numbers match experience, maybe even a little low.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Where do you live? I did brooklyn -> oakland and it said that oakland is %15 cheaper. These are jr. dev salaries

Rochester 43.76% cheaper. Super cheap living here, tons of good food, cocktails, great lakes, and 15 minutes to get anywhere across the entire city.

Are you guys still scraping ice off your windshields? Usually that stops around June, am I right? :-)

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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1. These salaries are for Bootcamp graduates, which means they'll be lower than someone with 5 years experience in programming. 2. These salaries are likely for the Bay Area, where a 1br apartment can cost you $3k+, and your tax rate will be 35% (state + federal). It's not comparable to places with lower tax rates and lower cost of living.

Background and location are listed. Not all are SF, not all are Bootcamp.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Will we see one for female employees? Or would that be too expensive to compile?

Well. As a former Google female employee, I've learned that with 4 years Google experience and 10 years industry experience, I was making as much total comp as a person with about 1.5 years industry experience.

Re: Anonymized list of engineering salaries from bootcamp grads

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Honestly was expecting a lot more, considering the salaries people throw around on Hacker News. Using http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-l... the adjusted value for $136,000 in SF to where I live in New York is a decent chunk less. Especially being in a DevOps/Systems role, and not a Software Dev one.

Everyone on HN makes $200K+, drives a BMW and has a supermodel for a partner. Whenever salary comes up, there's always someone here who knows someone whose brother's girlfriend's room-mate makes $400K at Google, and therefore it's normal for a Software Engineer to make this much. The averages in this spreadsheet seem to agree roughly with average/median for the Bay Area as reported by Glassdoor[1] and Payscale[2]. 1:…

There is also a network affect where talking up people you perceive to be like yourself, i.e. software developers, entrepreneurs, silicon valley in general, makes oneself feel more important and respected.

Like I would never admit that when I first came to the Bay Area I took an internship at a start-up paying $500 a month. That would just insinuate that I'm a poor engineer.

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