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Please Make Google AMP Optional

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Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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I suggest stop using google search altogether. https://duckduckgo.com/ is an excellent search engine and its trivial to make a google search via `!g` prefix when you are not finding what you are looking for.

DDG is a wrapper on top of Bing. Maybe just skip the middleman and use Bing instead?

Not just Bing. They use many sources and I think they do some indexing on their own. IIRC Yandex is one of the sources too.

Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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post #335

Please, web developers, as a minimum, set up your websites so that they do not depend on Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon or Apple for their functionality. That means, for example, use DoubleClick or AdSense or GoogleAnalytics if you like, but please do not use jquery from Google's CDNs. If you do that, and the site is dependent on that functionality to work (i.e. for text to be displayed), those of us who don't a…

I was under the impression that WebAssembly had reached cross-browser consensus and isn't a service from any individual multinational.

How would using WebAssembly make the web less free any more than using other new features like Async/Await?

Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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post #335

Please, web developers, as a minimum, set up your websites so that they do not depend on Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon or Apple for their functionality. That means, for example, use DoubleClick or AdSense or GoogleAnalytics if you like, but please do not use jquery from Google's CDNs. If you do that, and the site is dependent on that functionality to work (i.e. for text to be displayed), those of us who don't a…

> That means, for example, use DoubleClick or AdSense or GoogleAnalytics if you like, but please do not use jquery from Google's CDNs. Why is Google Analytics ok and not their CDN?

A website still functions without Google Analytics.

99% of websites won't function if they lose a key library.

Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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post #335

Please, web developers, as a minimum, set up your websites so that they do not depend on Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon or Apple for their functionality. That means, for example, use DoubleClick or AdSense or GoogleAnalytics if you like, but please do not use jquery from Google's CDNs. If you do that, and the site is dependent on that functionality to work (i.e. for text to be displayed), those of us who don't a…

> That means, for example, use DoubleClick or AdSense or GoogleAnalytics if you like, but please do not use jquery from Google's CDNs. Why is Google Analytics ok and not their CDN?

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Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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post #331

As someone who just heard of AMP today, i still can't find any site where it's used, nor have i ever encountered it in the wild. Is it an american thing, not enabled for other countries? Just what am i supposed to look for?

Search for some hot news topic on Google with Chrome on Android, you'll see a ton of AMP pages. I haven't encountered it in the wild either because I do not do that pretty much ever.

Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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post #335

Please, web developers, as a minimum, set up your websites so that they do not depend on Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon or Apple for their functionality. That means, for example, use DoubleClick or AdSense or GoogleAnalytics if you like, but please do not use jquery from Google's CDNs. If you do that, and the site is dependent on that functionality to work (i.e. for text to be displayed), those of us who don't a…

> That means, for example, use DoubleClick or AdSense or GoogleAnalytics if you like, but please do not use jquery from Google's CDNs. Why is Google Analytics ok and not their CDN?

My point is that anyone can use an adblocker or Squid proxy filtering to block GoogleAnalytics, but if the site uses jquery from a Google CDN to render content, that cannot be blocked without making the site unusable. It's even worse if the Google CDN request is made with https, because then a redirection needs to be made inside the browser.

Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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Google AMP: 1. Obscures the web page's URL. 2. Makes manual zoom in/out impossible. 3. Sometimes hides content mentioned in the article, with no ability to scroll horizontally to see it. 4. Confuses Chrome on Amdroid into over-hiding its top address/menu bar (forcing two swipes down all the way to the top to show) or forces it to show (won't hide on scroll down). This is just coming from a user's perspective, fortuna…

...and changes the native scroll behavior iOS (which is much slower). Google has no respect for the native behavior

Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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post #335

Please, web developers, as a minimum, set up your websites so that they do not depend on Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon or Apple for their functionality. That means, for example, use DoubleClick or AdSense or GoogleAnalytics if you like, but please do not use jquery from Google's CDNs. If you do that, and the site is dependent on that functionality to work (i.e. for text to be displayed), those of us who don't a…

I was under the impression that WebAssembly had reached cross-browser consensus and isn't a service from any individual multinational. How would using WebAssembly make the web less free any more than using other new features like Async/Await?

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Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually find DDG results to be better and more relevant a lot of the time nowadays. The only thing Google really has an edge on (for my use) is searching for academic articles, because of Google Scholar.

Can't agree. Almost always when DDG has only spam or useless results, !g gives me exactly what I looked for. I like DDG, especially the bangs, but Google still gives me way better results when I need them.

Out of curiosity, what are some examples? You can also submit feedback directly in the results, which the DDG team uses to improve their algorithms.

Re: Please Make Google AMP Optional

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post #335

Please, web developers, as a minimum, set up your websites so that they do not depend on Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon or Apple for their functionality. That means, for example, use DoubleClick or AdSense or GoogleAnalytics if you like, but please do not use jquery from Google's CDNs. If you do that, and the site is dependent on that functionality to work (i.e. for text to be displayed), those of us who don't a…

I was under the impression that WebAssembly had reached cross-browser consensus and isn't a service from any individual multinational. How would using WebAssembly make the web less free any more than using other new features like Async/Await?

It depends on what you do with that blob; if you use it to request some required encrypted content, for example, users won't be able to do much about that.
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