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How to lose weight: What worked for me, with graphs

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I’ve gone through this “diet” three times (see graphs). The first time I went from 83kg to 75.5kg over about 3 months. The second time, from 80kg to 71kg over 4 months. My latest iteration of this diet has me down from 75kg to 68.5kg in about 2 months. Note how each time the starting weight is over the last ending weight? And this is the problem, right there. It is not hard to find an eating regime that will help you…

Yep. The simple method I've found to deal with this is to keep on weighing myself every day. I can eat all sorts of crap, as long as I keep weighing myself. There's a lengthy period of time which I haven't typed in the data for where I just weighed myself every day. I still managed to keep the weight off when I did that. The minute I stopped weighing myself, though, the weight piled back on. A daily ritual of steppin…

I've just been through exactly what you've described. I'd weighed about 88 kg for 15 yrs. Before that I'd dieted sometimes with low fat diets but they never worked: I always ended up binging on cheese sandwiches! So for 15 yrs, I ate whatever I wanted (except for sweets) and sat on 88 kgs (BMI 32= obese).

Then I moved to China a few years ago, and late last year heard about the Chinese proverb: "Eat heaps for breakfast, eat enough for lunch, and eat little for dinner". This was news to me because all my life I thought I had to eat dinner every day. So I started following that rule, still eating the same food I always did, including heaps of eggs for breakfast. I also started keeping absolutely no food in my apartment, apart for milk for coffee, and instead ate out for every meal. In China there's always many restaurants a short walk from one's home.

Winter arrived, with the cold, some snow, and occasional rain, and I started skipping dinners because I was too lazy to go out, and dinners were now just snacks. After a few weeks, I noticed I weren't ever hungry in the evening. Even when I ate lunch when the restaurants opened at 11:00am, then nothing else for the rest of the day, I still weren't hungry, as long as I had a big breakfast. After a few months, I noticed I didn't have much fat where there'd been some for at least a decade, so I weighed myself: only 80kg. I've since come down to 75kg (BMI 27), but have sat at that weight for 2 months. I now weigh myself every day because (for some reason :-) I always remember to.

One other thing: I stopped eating white rice with my meals. The restaurants I frequent around here probably think I'm a foreign oddity who pays for two dishes instead of just one with free bowls of rice. I still eat noodles or potatoes every day though.

All this weight loss happened without trying very hard: eating the same fatty food I always did, virtually never eating after lunch, not exercising except for a few long walks every week, and not eating rice with my meals. Just a few simple rules. One thing I've accepted is: If I want to stay at this weight, I'll never be eating after lunch time again, and I can live with that.

Re: How to lose weight: What worked for me, with graphs

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I've lost 8 inches off my waist since august through not dieting and ramping up exercise (it's really important to not diet). and last year and I would say the advice is not good practice in places. I've not weighed myself once, I have no interest in my weight, or my BMI. My waist (and the requirement to have bought and thrown away quite a few trousers and shirts in the 10 months) are as much of an indicator as is ne…

I think that you will be healthier and look better and also weight more if you exercise a lot, just because muscle is more dense than fat.

Re: How to lose weight: What worked for me, with graphs

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OK, let me just talk about the low-calories idea and some other stuff for a second. It's gonna be a little long. This is pretty much all copy-pasted from Gary Taubes' ideas, so please don't accuse me of plagiarism!. [Notes, from http://higher-thought.net/complete-notes-to-good-calories-ba... Really really great resource, everyone should read it if they haven't read Good Calories, Bad Calories] 1.) This guy is saying…

Sounds pretty unbelievable. So your saying you could eat chicken wings (unbreaded) for dinner every day and not get fat? What does the body do with all that extra energy? Don't the laws of physics have to apply?

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OK, let me just talk about the low-calories idea and some other stuff for a second. It's gonna be a little long. This is pretty much all copy-pasted from Gary Taubes' ideas, so please don't accuse me of plagiarism!. [Notes, from http://higher-thought.net/complete-notes-to-good-calories-ba... Really really great resource, everyone should read it if they haven't read Good Calories, Bad Calories] 1.) This guy is saying…

Sounds pretty unbelievable. So your saying you could eat chicken wings (unbreaded) for dinner every day and not get fat? What does the body do with all that extra energy? Don't the laws of physics have to apply?

Yeah; it just gets metabolized instead of stored. You become more energetic, so to speak.

Re: How to lose weight: What worked for me, with graphs

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As I suppose many of the people here do, I have a long list of pet projects that I plan to one day finish. One of them is lineardiet.com. The idea is simple. You just enter your current weight (C) and your desired weight (D). The service then plots you a graph with a line from weight C to weight D. The Y axis is the weight and the X axis is time. Now you have to weigh yourself every day. If you are above the line it'…

This idea is exactly how my and Bethany Soule's pet project, kibotzer.com, started. It has worked great for a bunch of family and friends (although they often yo-yo back when they stop reporting their weight to kibotzer!).

A tweak to your broccoli vs pizza day (great way to put it!): It's hard to take broccoli day seriously if it's just a random fluctuation. So we have a Yellow Brick Road that you follow to your goal. The centerline of the Road is what you call the line from C to D. And then there's a right and wrong lane of the Yellow Brick Road (lane width dynamically adjusts to account for random fluctuation) and broccoli mode starts in earnest when you're in the wrong lane and in danger of going off the Road.

The biggest failure mode of kibotzer/lineardiet seems to be painting yourself into a corner by going above the line a bit planning to catch back up, and then a bit more, until it's hopeless. We have a bunch of ideas for how to address that...

Re: How to lose weight: What worked for me, with graphs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate on what makes it "much better"? I thought Taubes's book was very well researched (I think he spent about 10 years on it) and very well argued. I'd love to see something even better.

Much more science, less story-telling, but extremely compelling research -- many more studies cited, not just weight but the effect of low-carbohydrate diets on things like gout. Graphs. Very much a "here's the science, here's why, make your own mind up" type of book.

Sounds good. Thanks.
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