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Tsukiji, Japan’s iconic fish market, is still booming—for now

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Re: Tsukiji, Japan’s iconic fish market, is still booming—for now

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I've been to Tsukiji a number of times, including the morning after Fukushima. Most recently I was there in September. They're glossing over the recent rules that tourists aren't allowed in the inner market before 10am, largely after business is done for the day. Sushi Dai is good but not worth standing in line for an hour. There are dozens of restaurants along Shin Ohashi Dori with local specialities and no tourists…

I've been to several of the joints on that small alley housing both Sushi Dai and Daiwa over the years. The experience is very different from what you get at a very formal and oldschool place like Sushi Iwa [1], especially if you can chat up the chefs (which imo is an essential part of going to a sushi joint).

Personally I'd be okay with waiting 1 hour for Sushi Dai, but that's way below average wait time. The standard wait time is about 4 hours these days. Daiwa is about 45 minutes iirc. Regardless, it's 90% foreign tourists these days anyways, and it's a win-win scenario for the tourists and the restaurants imo. It's like a Velben good -- the longer the wait the more memorable the experience? :P

Agreed that there are plenty of great random places to eat in the outer market. Might be hard for the average visitor to glean which one to visit though.

[1] do they still charge a flat 20,000 JPY for dinner regardless of how much or little you eat?

Re: Tsukiji, Japan’s iconic fish market, is still booming—for now

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I've been to Tsukiji a number of times, including the morning after Fukushima. Most recently I was there in September. They're glossing over the recent rules that tourists aren't allowed in the inner market before 10am, largely after business is done for the day. Sushi Dai is good but not worth standing in line for an hour. There are dozens of restaurants along Shin Ohashi Dori with local specialities and no tourists…

What strange timing. I just had breakfast there (no idea what restaurant--just walked into the first one I could find that had a VISA sign out front). Of course after jet lag woke me up at 4 am...

Re: Tsukiji, Japan’s iconic fish market, is still booming—for now

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I've been to Tsukiji a number of times, including the morning after Fukushima. Most recently I was there in September. They're glossing over the recent rules that tourists aren't allowed in the inner market before 10am, largely after business is done for the day. Sushi Dai is good but not worth standing in line for an hour. There are dozens of restaurants along Shin Ohashi Dori with local specialities and no tourists…

I absolutely hate standing in line for anything, but I waited for Sushi Dai. It's a fun cultural experience when you compare it to the throngs of folks waiting for a random sunday brunch in SF or NYC, and the omakase menu was utterly outstanding. I've also had the great fortune of securing a reservation at Sukiyabashi Jiro Roppongi Hills (the son of "Jiro Dreams of Sushi"). The meal was extraordinary, but the formali…

Thank you so much for posting! Is type A (personality) rare/suppressed in Japan? Was whale meat on sale? (I know a whale is not a fish) I hear it tastes oily. (type A jedi shinichi)

Re: Tsukiji, Japan’s iconic fish market, is still booming—for now

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I've been to Tsukiji a number of times, including the morning after Fukushima. Most recently I was there in September. They're glossing over the recent rules that tourists aren't allowed in the inner market before 10am, largely after business is done for the day. Sushi Dai is good but not worth standing in line for an hour. There are dozens of restaurants along Shin Ohashi Dori with local specialities and no tourists…

I've been to several of the joints on that small alley housing both Sushi Dai and Daiwa over the years. The experience is very different from what you get at a very formal and oldschool place like Sushi Iwa [1], especially if you can chat up the chefs (which imo is an essential part of going to a sushi joint). Personally I'd be okay with waiting 1 hour for Sushi Dai, but that's way below average wait time. The standa…

I haven't been to Iwa for dinner, only lunch. That runs about 7000 yen. FWIW I've found the chef fairly talkative the three times I've been there.

Re: Tsukiji, Japan’s iconic fish market, is still booming—for now

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The inner market is the wholesale market, where chefs and such are buying fish. The outer market is more varied. Dry goods, kitchen supply, lots of restaurants and now a fair number of stores selling tourist kitsch. As a tourist I actually wouldn't bother getting to the market before 5am. Skip the tuna auction (there are a million videos on YouTube). The subways start running at 5, so catch one then and start with an…

Love the Tommy Lee Jones reference! He's literally everywhere on vending machines in Japan.

I've seen the Boss Coffee commercials on Youtube. Finding out about these commercial campaigns that American actors do in Japan is always fun.

Re: Tsukiji, Japan’s iconic fish market, is still booming—for now

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The inner market is the wholesale market, where chefs and such are buying fish. The outer market is more varied. Dry goods, kitchen supply, lots of restaurants and now a fair number of stores selling tourist kitsch. As a tourist I actually wouldn't bother getting to the market before 5am. Skip the tuna auction (there are a million videos on YouTube). The subways start running at 5, so catch one then and start with an…

Love the Tommy Lee Jones reference! He's literally everywhere on vending machines in Japan.

Any ideas how much money he has made from Japanese specific endorsements? I too have seen his face everywhere.

Re: Tsukiji, Japan’s iconic fish market, is still booming—for now

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I've been to Tsukiji a number of times, including the morning after Fukushima. Most recently I was there in September. They're glossing over the recent rules that tourists aren't allowed in the inner market before 10am, largely after business is done for the day. Sushi Dai is good but not worth standing in line for an hour. There are dozens of restaurants along Shin Ohashi Dori with local specialities and no tourists…

I've been to several of the joints on that small alley housing both Sushi Dai and Daiwa over the years. The experience is very different from what you get at a very formal and oldschool place like Sushi Iwa [1], especially if you can chat up the chefs (which imo is an essential part of going to a sushi joint). Personally I'd be okay with waiting 1 hour for Sushi Dai, but that's way below average wait time. The standa…

yeah I was just in Tokyo last week, Sushi Dai on a weekday morning still had around a 3h wait at 9am

Re: Tsukiji, Japan’s iconic fish market, is still booming—for now

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I've been to Tsukiji a number of times, including the morning after Fukushima. Most recently I was there in September. They're glossing over the recent rules that tourists aren't allowed in the inner market before 10am, largely after business is done for the day. Sushi Dai is good but not worth standing in line for an hour. There are dozens of restaurants along Shin Ohashi Dori with local specialities and no tourists…

I went to Daiwa for the second time last September. The restaurant seemed to have its visitor flow worked out — I was seated after maybe 20 minutes of queuing, my omakase set was served up and finished in around 15 minutes, and I was sent out the door as soon as I was done.

It felt very much like I was on a conveyor belt myself.

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