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AMP is bad and anyone who's invested in it should feel shameful for making the internet a worse place.
Internet being turned into a shitty place by bad developers and advertisers is why AMP exists in the first place.
AMP is bad and anyone who's invested in it should feel shameful for making the internet a worse place.
I'm not sure I would go that far but I've given up on Google personally, though. Yahoo search is ok. Firefox's mobile UI isn't as good but I'm sticking with it. Email and Photos is pretty hard to get away from. Hopefully I'll be fully out some day in the near future.
I never really understood why google amp is bad. Can anyone explain the reason why people think its ethically bad?
>Can anyone explain the reason why people think its ethically bad This is just one of many reasons, but try this on a mobile phone. Go to Google and search for "Trump" Note what choices you have to pick from without excessive scrolling. They all end in either ads or Google urls. Click one of the featured stories in the carousel, almost guaranteed to be an AMP site. Seems to be a prerequisite to sit in the carousel. L…
I suggest stop using google search altogether. https://duckduckgo.com/ is an excellent search engine and its trivial to make a google search via `!g` prefix when you are not finding what you are looking for.
Isn't AMP just an RSS reader for the entire internet? If they solved the URL issue somehow(even if faking the address bar), and had original and AMP links in search; it would probably reduce the antiAMP argument quite a bit. Which both seem to be just UI issues.
Hijacking right and left swipe and the back button are also issues. Google's attitude that it's "your page" despite the URL and header is complete BS. They clearly hijack it for their own benefit.
Worst of all I was on the website the other day where I couldn't use pinch to zoom without it moving me to a different page. It was literally impossible to zoom into the content.
I can't stand all these things where websites seem to try to invente the features that are already built into mobile phones. "Will make a bar that makes it easy to share this!" I can ALREADY share things easily on my phone. And it doesn't waste 10% of my screen at all times. Also, I can configure at the way I want.
I never really understood why google amp is bad. Can anyone explain the reason why people think its ethically bad?
>Can anyone explain the reason why people think its ethically bad This is just one of many reasons, but try this on a mobile phone. Go to Google and search for "Trump" Note what choices you have to pick from without excessive scrolling. They all end in either ads or Google urls. Click one of the featured stories in the carousel, almost guaranteed to be an AMP site. Seems to be a prerequisite to sit in the carousel. L…
I suggest stop using google search altogether. https://duckduckgo.com/ is an excellent search engine and its trivial to make a google search via `!g` prefix when you are not finding what you are looking for.
I started using DDG a few months back and I've been very happy so far. Sometimes results aren't as great, so I just use !g to load Google. But even better, you can search across different websites! For example, !mdn for Mozilla Developer Network, or !yt for YouTube Another thing you can do is use alternative browsers. On mobile I use Firefox Mobile, which has the benefit of allowing extensions, so you can install uBl…
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>Can anyone explain the reason why people think its ethically bad This is just one of many reasons, but try this on a mobile phone. Go to Google and search for "Trump" Note what choices you have to pick from without excessive scrolling. They all end in either ads or Google urls. Click one of the featured stories in the carousel, almost guaranteed to be an AMP site. Seems to be a prerequisite to sit in the carousel. L…
The argument that swipe behavior should be entirely within the control of the publisher feels like an oversimplification. Plenty of UI elements are designed to work at a higher level of scope than the document: back, bookmark list, [X] button, home button, etc.
You mention the [X] button. How many end users do you suppose think that the [X] on the AMP header bar should make the header bar go away...versus functioning like a back button, going all the way back to the google search? I suspect they are conditioned by things like the EU cookie warnings that an [X] on a header bar makes it go away.
An AMP page you reach from a Google search is Google's page, period. It's not the publisher's page. And that's no accident or side effect. It's the whole point. Performance is a secondary concern.
I've never actually seen AMP "in the wild". Is it because my only mobile browsing is with Firefox on Android?
Yeah, same. Firefox Nightly Android + DuckDuckGo, but sometimes I do use Google, still haven't found an AMP page.