So is he going to lobby for a massive overhaul of Foxconn's employment practices?
Apple has done more than any other American company to improve working conditions in China.
Even if that's true, it does not mean they have done enough.
Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
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Re: Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
#12This is a pretty ironic statement, given their entire product design is built to serve apple, and the users are often secondary to that or ignored entirely; such as making UI more difficult on purpose so you're more inclined to use siri, or buying music instead of bringing your own. I dont see AI at apple being any different. Its for them FIRST, us second, if at all. "humanity" may as well mean corporations since the…
Do you have any examples of them making bad UI to get people to use siri?
Re: Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
#13This is a pretty ironic statement, given their entire product design is built to serve apple, and the users are often secondary to that or ignored entirely; such as making UI more difficult on purpose so you're more inclined to use siri, or buying music instead of bringing your own. I dont see AI at apple being any different. Its for them FIRST, us second, if at all. "humanity" may as well mean corporations since the…
Do you have any examples of them making bad UI to get people to use siri?
That's easy. The most common thing to do with my iPHone is hit the button.
They overloaded the button to load Siri if its held for even a fraction of a second too long. 99 times out of 100 I don't want to use siri but she continually pops up.
Trying to click to get back to the home screen.... here's Siri.
Trying to double click the button, to kill an app..... here comes Siri
So to answer the question....
1) They made Siri enabled by default, something that I can't see myself ever wanting.
2) They made Siri come up using the button, again something that almost always means when siri comes up its by accident and not indented.
Apple isn't immune from "dark patterns" in their UI. The Siri example above being the most egregious example I can think of.
Re: Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
#14So is he going to lobby for a massive overhaul of Foxconn's employment practices?
From your reading of the article, is that within the context of what the article was referencing? Because I'm reading nothing that indicates to me that the conversation/interview had anything to do with manufacturing or employment practices. Additionally, I would argue that "employment practices" have little or nothing to do with "technology".
Re: Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
#15This is a pretty ironic statement, given their entire product design is built to serve apple, and the users are often secondary to that or ignored entirely; such as making UI more difficult on purpose so you're more inclined to use siri, or buying music instead of bringing your own. I dont see AI at apple being any different. Its for them FIRST, us second, if at all. "humanity" may as well mean corporations since the…
This smells more like you're frustrated with "business as usual" these days and less Apple specifically.
Every org I have been with has had to maintain a level of "can't resolve 100% of the numerous customer complaints, because gotta ship."
Can't Tim be pointing to a path forward? Why so negative. If they can't fix it all today, they're not good at their work, and completely incompetent?
Re: Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any examples of them making bad UI to get people to use siri?
That's easy. The most common thing to do with my iPHone is hit the button. They overloaded the button to load Siri if its held for even a fraction of a second too long. 99 times out of 100 I don't want to use siri but she continually pops up. Trying to click to get back to the home screen.... here's Siri. Trying to double click the button, to kill an app..... here comes Siri So to answer the question.... 1) They made…
I've been using iPhone's with Siri since it debuted and this has never once happened to me. Is this really something you experience regularly?
Re: Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
#17This is a pretty ironic statement, given their entire product design is built to serve apple, and the users are often secondary to that or ignored entirely; such as making UI more difficult on purpose so you're more inclined to use siri, or buying music instead of bringing your own. I dont see AI at apple being any different. Its for them FIRST, us second, if at all. "humanity" may as well mean corporations since the…
The context of the statement was technology causing humans to become less relevant via automation. Hes not talking about users of Apple products.
To your statement though, Apple wants to make things less configurable with a large enough sandbox where the users don't complain about their restricted freedoms (applies more to their devices line). The earlier Apple wanted to give the best tools to their users, and let them use them as they saw fit.
I equate this with the shift in games, where earlier games simply gave you a good control system and let you figure things out, where as now, its more about ensuring that the player has a good experience by gently nudging them towards a goal.
Re: Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any examples of them making bad UI to get people to use siri?
That's easy. The most common thing to do with my iPHone is hit the button. They overloaded the button to load Siri if its held for even a fraction of a second too long. 99 times out of 100 I don't want to use siri but she continually pops up. Trying to click to get back to the home screen.... here's Siri. Trying to double click the button, to kill an app..... here comes Siri So to answer the question.... 1) They made…
Uhh, I have never enabled Siri on my iPhone 7 and everything just works. It's easy to install, but asking a question does not make it the default.
Re: Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any examples of them making bad UI to get people to use siri?
That's easy. The most common thing to do with my iPHone is hit the button. They overloaded the button to load Siri if its held for even a fraction of a second too long. 99 times out of 100 I don't want to use siri but she continually pops up. Trying to click to get back to the home screen.... here's Siri. Trying to double click the button, to kill an app..... here comes Siri So to answer the question.... 1) They made…
Turn it off then? It's in the settings. Can't say I particularly like Siri either but not using it works so far.
So what's a real example of Apple making the UI worse to further their agenda (i.e. selling more stuff)?
Re: Tim Cook: Technology Should Serve Humanity, Not the Other Way Around
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any examples of them making bad UI to get people to use siri?
That's easy. The most common thing to do with my iPHone is hit the button. They overloaded the button to load Siri if its held for even a fraction of a second too long. 99 times out of 100 I don't want to use siri but she continually pops up. Trying to click to get back to the home screen.... here's Siri. Trying to double click the button, to kill an app..... here comes Siri So to answer the question.... 1) They made…
I'm sure being able to access Siri from a prominent button was boon to users that have little or no eye sight. Also, recall this was added to iPhones before any other major phone had similar built-in functionality.