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Why So Few Women Break Through Tech's Bro Culture

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Re: Why So Few Women Break Through Tech's Bro Culture

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Post by kkelleey »

I've found it interesting how my colleagues refer to the gender of hypothetical engineers. One principal engineer that I work with always uses "Suzie" in examples; "If Suzie is ..., she ...". Many others simply use the pronoun "he/him". ("When a manger..., he should ...").

I'm not sure if the principal engineer chooses "Suzie" deliberately because of her gender, but as a female engineer I really respect him for it and appreciate it anyway. Conversely, while I don't find it that big of a deal, I do lose a bit of respect for the speaker when I notice them only using "he/him".

Something to consider.

Re: Why So Few Women Break Through Tech's Bro Culture

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Post by warrshrike »

calvinbhai wrote: post #8
amyjess wrote: post #3

A couple of observations: 1) The discrepancy starts at an early age. When I was in college, there were very few women in my CS classes, and nearly all of them were international students. This SMBC comes to mind more than anything else: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=1883 2) Looking at my own employer, I noticed some interesting things. First off, we're a mid-size B2B telecom with a very corporate culture, which is a…

I noticed to same (2) in all the startups I have worked at! about (1), to make matters worse, most of those international students are kicked out of US because their luck didn't favor them with the H1b lottery. A few years ago, as an international student myself, I found it weird to see hardly (compared to other courses) any American women (of any color/race) in CS/EE/CE/IT courses. Some of the international students…

Are you saying we should have H1B quotas exclusively for women (as you say "stapled to women graduates' degrees")?

How is that not discrimination?

Re: Why So Few Women Break Through Tech's Bro Culture

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Post by calvinbhai »

warrshrike wrote: post #12
calvinbhai wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed to same (2) in all the startups I have worked at! about (1), to make matters worse, most of those international students are kicked out of US because their luck didn't favor them with the H1b lottery. A few years ago, as an international student myself, I found it weird to see hardly (compared to other courses) any American women (of any color/race) in CS/EE/CE/IT courses. Some of the international students…

Are you saying we should have H1B quotas exclusively for women (as you say "stapled to women graduates' degrees")? How is that not discrimination?

Not specifically H1b. H1b visa by itself gives unfair leverage to the employer, combine that with work place bias against women, especially in tech companies, I'd be surprised if any non male employee on a H1b visa dares to speak up against any kind of sexual harassment.

w.r.t "Staple to graduate degrees", I meant green cards(gc). Similar to how canada does based on points. And sure, not just for women, anyone who is eligible based on points, should get a GC stapled

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