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Many people on HN seem to forget that many strides in computer science, computer architecture, and mathematics came from schools that don't start with an "S" and are from outside of the Bay Area. I think it is more that the definition of how you measure innovation has shifted over time -- now it is based on how many dollars are raised for your venture vs. actual strides being made in academic fields of study.
....but still from a HYPSM.
Before Silicon Valley, New Jersey Reigned As Nation's Center Of Innovation
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MIT, CMU, Princeton, Harvard and Cornell are all top schools for C.S. and those are all still on the East Coast. None of these schools have any difficulty attracting top talent from around the world.
I got skewered in /r/cscareerquestions several months ago for suggesting that any Ivy had a top-tier CS program. It may not be reality, but there is definitely a strong perception.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
I got skewered in /r/cscareerquestions several months ago for suggesting that any Ivy had a top-tier CS program. It may not be reality, but there is definitely a strong perception.
It's a very odd perception that I think comes from their size. They tend to be smaller, more focused departments. The education quality is still high and everyone's favorite companies recruit at them.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
MIT, CMU, Princeton, Harvard and Cornell are all top schools for C.S. and those are all still on the East Coast. None of these schools have any difficulty attracting top talent from around the world.
I got skewered in /r/cscareerquestions several months ago for suggesting that any Ivy had a top-tier CS program. It may not be reality, but there is definitely a strong perception.
[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_school_rankings_in_the_U...
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I find your comment a bit gratuitous. These seminal figures come up somewhat regularly on HN and it's no secret that these great minds hailed from Austria, Britain, Hungary, Germany etc.
It was a bit more controversial than I intended, but I still stand by the opinion that Silicon Valley is weighed a lot more than any other location. I don't disagree that the figures come up from time to time, but they are rarely on the top of comments lists unless the submission is specifically about them.
I grew up in the Boston area, and honestly, I thought there was more genuine technology innovation coming out of Boston-area institutions like MIT, other area universities, Lincoln Labs, MITRE, Raytheon, BBN, etc. The problem was that most of these innovations get strangled in their cradle, because Boston VCs are looking for ways to do things that are already being done better, and aren't willing to take a chance on ideas that look nothing like existing businesses. In Silicon Valley, you can usually find at least one defector who thinks "Well, it's a terrible idea, but I'm going to invest anyway just to see what happens." And that's why you have all these companies that actually started in Boston - Microsoft, Facebook, Reddit, DropBox, YCombinator - but are now known as either "Silicon Valley" or "Seattle" companies.
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#126So there's silicon alley in NY, silicon prairie in the midwest, silicon forest in portland, what do we call Jersey?
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#127I don't know what's more sad, the fact that NJ killed its own tech scene or that the revival efforts shining example focus on a "company that helps people make money on videos they post on social media". That's certainly a far cry from inventing the transistor and pioneering radio. Yep, NJ is still (for now) dead to tech. It reminds me of Columbus, Ohio, which used to be a big Internet and tech hub. Now, only burnt e…
> Some cultural differences were also shaped by the law. New Jersey has strict anti-competitive laws that make it hard to take what you learn at your job and create a new company. This is probably the biggest influence. SV is built on people who starte working at HP, Microsoft, or Google, then left to found their own company - or straight out of college for the lucky/rich kids like Zuckerberg and Gates. Then there is…
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#130I don't know what's more sad, the fact that NJ killed its own tech scene or that the revival efforts shining example focus on a "company that helps people make money on videos they post on social media". That's certainly a far cry from inventing the transistor and pioneering radio. Yep, NJ is still (for now) dead to tech. It reminds me of Columbus, Ohio, which used to be a big Internet and tech hub. Now, only burnt e…
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