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Aluminum Should Now Be Considered a Primary Factor in Alzheimer’s Disease

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Re: Aluminum Should Now Be Considered a Primary Factor in Alzheimer’s Disease

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Post by HarryHirsch »

hueving wrote: post #59
HarryHirsch wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An editorial in a journal that no one ever heard of by an author from an also-ran university. In medical research you can really only trust meta-studies, because attempts to find a simple cause for any complex disease are legion, and usually wrong.

>from an also-ran university Don't do this. An ad hominem against someone's employer is really lame when you consider the fact that many people don't want to relocate due to family obligations. Using the author's previous research as a signal is reasonable but also lazy.

There is enormous pressure to publish these days, even at underfunded universities. It distracts from the mission of the institution (are we fundraising or teaching?) and gives all the wrong incentives to faculty. Someone may wish to do a decent job teaching, it's a teaching college after all, but is forced by the higher-ups to publish junk like this. Others may even believe the crap they are doing is legit.

British ex-polytechnics have it especially bad, they were teaching institutions and declared universities in 1992 and forced to compete for funding with the established universities. (OK, Keele isn't an ex-poly, but it was never good or adequately funded.)

You can't take everything serious that's printed, there is too much junk out there, and then you have to go by heuristics, like journal or affiliation. That's how the "invisible boot" works.

Re: Aluminum Should Now Be Considered a Primary Factor in Alzheimer’s Disease

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Post by diyseguy »

stickfigure wrote: post #67
kbenson wrote: post #17

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Wait, didn't aluminun used to be much more rare in the past, yet we still had Alzheimer's cases? Or are we assuming things in the past were Alzheimer's without good evidence? Edit: Removed question about exposure, since it was answered in parent.

Aluminum is the third most common element in the Earth's crust, so we've been heavily exposed for our entire 4-plus-billion-year evolution. That's one reason to be suspicious of claims that aluminum is dangerous; we should be pretty well adapted to it by now. That said, big brains and 100-year lifespans are a pretty new development, so a bad reaction is certainly not impossible. But it's worth taking extra care evalu…

Aluminum is normally bound up tightly with other elements and not part of the biosphere until we began to mine and develop products from it that introduced it there.

Re: Aluminum Should Now Be Considered a Primary Factor in Alzheimer’s Disease

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Post by majkinetor »

dwg wrote: post #39
kbenson wrote: post #17

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Wait, didn't aluminun used to be much more rare in the past, yet we still had Alzheimer's cases? Or are we assuming things in the past were Alzheimer's without good evidence? Edit: Removed question about exposure, since it was answered in parent.

My understanding: Aluminum exists naturally in soil and is absorbed into plants and the animals that eat them. We have always been exposed aluminum in trace amounts via food. Ones total exposure increases over their lifetime. Over a century ago aluminum extraction became much cheaper and it started to be used in various food additives, thereby increasing the amount of aluminum we consume and the average total exposur…

That may be irrelevant if

- there is more aluminium exposure today

- there is higher digestion due to some other absorption promoter

Re: Aluminum Should Now Be Considered a Primary Factor in Alzheimer’s Disease

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Post by mmerlin »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #48
seanp2k2 wrote: post #33

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But still, this is part of why I go out of my way to use deodorant without anti-perspirant. The idea of aluminum bits causing the pores to swell shut doesn't sound like a good idea.

Without anti-perspirant I sweat a lot (which is not a problem) but it's the stink it causes that makes me use them. Anyone has any tips?

Al-free tea tree oil based rollon works for me

Re: Aluminum Should Now Be Considered a Primary Factor in Alzheimer’s Disease

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Post by kinkrtyavimoodh »

medell wrote: post #60
kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #48

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Without anti-perspirant I sweat a lot (which is not a problem) but it's the stink it causes that makes me use them. Anyone has any tips?

If you want an alternative to slathering chemicals, look into essential oils. Also diet is huge contributing factor, albeit a longer path to find a solution.

Thanks for your suggestion, I will check them out, but can we please not have the absurd chemical phobia here on HN?

Oils are chemicals too.

Re: Aluminum Should Now Be Considered a Primary Factor in Alzheimer’s Disease

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Post by bujak »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #48
seanp2k2 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But still, this is part of why I go out of my way to use deodorant without anti-perspirant. The idea of aluminum bits causing the pores to swell shut doesn't sound like a good idea.

Without anti-perspirant I sweat a lot (which is not a problem) but it's the stink it causes that makes me use them. Anyone has any tips?

It's bacteria decomposing the sweat causing the smell. Try anti bacterial soap in the armpits, washing t-shirts in 60+ °C hot water, drying on the line in sun, (exposure to UV will kill bacteria

Re: Aluminum Should Now Be Considered a Primary Factor in Alzheimer’s Disease

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Post by bujak »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #48
seanp2k2 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But still, this is part of why I go out of my way to use deodorant without anti-perspirant. The idea of aluminum bits causing the pores to swell shut doesn't sound like a good idea.

Without anti-perspirant I sweat a lot (which is not a problem) but it's the stink it causes that makes me use them. Anyone has any tips?

Also, check your washing machine for bacteria buildup (especially if you use add "softener")
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