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Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe

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12,000 employees in Uber? (I'm assuming that doesn't include the drivers). What do they do all day?

They're in a lot of counties and have a massive infrastructure. This number isn't that surprising.

This is roughly as many employees as Apple had in 2005 so it still seems rather high to me.

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12,000 employees in Uber? (I'm assuming that doesn't include the drivers). What do they do all day?

are you the type to ask that question about google and facebook too? uber is facebook minus a few years and has similiar numbers

Facebook had ~2000 employees just before their IPO IIRC. Just as a data point.

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The article doesn't discuss the seniority of the fired employees. It's very hard to distinguish between scapegoating and actually working to fix the problem without that information. The problem with Uber isn't that some employees engage in sexual harassment. The problem is that there's a culture where sexual harassment isn't taken seriously, is tolerated if the perpetrators are "high performing" in other respects, a…

There are two "parts" of the investigation. More coming at a later date in the near future WRT high level leadership. Other publications like axios state that Emil (BD) and Thuan (CTO) will likely be shown the door.

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I wonder if events like this turn Uber employees who leave around this time into a market of lemons. Obviously nobody will put on their resume that they were fired for sexual harassment so hiring managers will have to wonder if a person who left Uber recently was fed up or fired. Seems risky to hire a recent Uber employee at this point because bringing a toxic sexist into the company can inflict massive damage.

That's why you list references from your last job and people call them to see what kind of person you were while there.

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>Seems risky to hire a recent Uber employee at this point because bringing a toxic sexist into the company can inflict massive damage. Jesus. They are still people. You want to ostracize them from all society and prevent them from earning a living in their chosen career? 'Sexual harassment' is also a catch-all term that can encompass all kinds of actions. It could involve a clueless, inexperienced 20-something asking…

I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management chain. If an entire chain of management and HR don't treat a claim like that seriously (no one has disputed the claim), there is absolutely a cultural problem.

> I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management chain.

Just to verify: are you an Uber employee, then?

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Someone has to write the app and maintain the backend.

You should be able to do both with far fewer than 12,000 people. I suspect that the bulk of those people are doing something else.

Well, no one's stopping you from starting a competitor. Since you can do it with far fewer people, you should be profitable in no time. Good luck!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management chain. If an entire chain of management and HR don't treat a claim like that seriously (no one has disputed the claim), there is absolutely a cultural problem.

> I have independently verified Susan Fowler's claim that her management chain didn't treat her case seriously. And by that I mean with a member of her management chain. Just to verify: are you an Uber employee, then?

Nope. I don't need to be to have a conversation. Of course, you could argue the person I was speaking with shouldn't have shared the information with me, but that's their concern.

Re: Uber Fires More Than 20 Employees in Harassment Probe

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Feels somewhat symbolic at this point. The massively corrupt shop decides to fire a bunch of people who max out the acceptable level of corruption. Even how they hired Holder feels like a PR tactic; a man who was against all the US torture techniques ( http://fightthefuture.org/articles/the-rescue-of-eric-holder... ) and yet prosecuted no one. He is the image of a career, PR frontman. I'm still going to take Lyft ove…

Firing 2 or 3 people might be symbolic. Firing >20 isn't.
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