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Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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There are plenty of nice looking PC cases out there these days. I'm hoping to build a Hackintosh into an NZXT Manta case [0] (the windowless, matte black one) so that I can have practical, flexible, pretty, and quiet [0] https://www.nzxt.com/products/manta-matte-black-windowless

Nothing wrong with pretty. The problem with Apple these days seems to be that they compromise extensibility for prettiness.

I think their real target market is no longer pros. The pros are vastly outnumbered by people with a lot a money that will buy the latest shiny thing Apple puts out. As a company strategy to make the most money, its smart. If you are a pro looking for a serious work computer, Macs are just not very compelling.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Or, you know, a legitimate preference. People like cool looking stuff. Welcome to earth.

Sure, cool looking stuff is great, but if you type for 8+ hours a day, you might want to consider something that won't give you RSI. I mean, there's no lack of cool looking mechanical keyboards, even ones that match Apple products: https://input.club/k-type/ (That one is even USB-C and fully programmable/hackable with an open source firmware.)

>Sure, cool looking stuff is great, but if you type for 8+ hours a day, you might want to consider something that won't give you RSI.

Not sure what you have in mind, but split and "ergonomic" keyboard designs have never been shown to prevent or limit RSI. They're just a marketing gimmick.

http://www.healthytyping.com/articles/why-you-should-not-use...

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Not a Mac user but do they ever release a top-end product that was less powerful than last year's top-end product? If not hasn't ever top-end mac ever been the most powerful mac ever?

This is just common marketing, "new and improved" is slapped on everything

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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It sounds like the target audience for the new Mac Pro will be people who can afford to spend $10k on a quad-CPU machine. I'm sure those people will be happy. But what I want is an upgradable / self-servicable machine that costs under $3k. I hope Apple isn't about to miss the plot again .

Keep dreaming bud. If you want upgradeability and self-serviceability, build it yourself.

I agree and those days are long gone. Recently built a custom desktop but had to use windows. Now that Kaby Lake is supported on Macs I could do a hackintosh.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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post #139

Gonna leave this here from the official press release as it seems quite a few people have missed this point: "In addition to the new iMac Pro, Apple is working on a completely redesigned, next-generation Mac Pro architected for pro customers who need the highest-end, high-throughput system in a modular design, as well as a new high-end pro display." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2017/06/imac-pro-most-powerfu... Also…

If you want a keyboard that looks similar and has good quality but not for macOS, I've heard good things about Surface Keyboard https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/surface-keyboard/8r3...

I'm using Surface Ergonomic keyboards at home and at work, can confirm good build quality.

I won't weigh in on quality of typing experience. Everybody I know says that I type like I'm trying to beat my keyboard to death, so while I like typing on them quite a lot, I don't know if that'd transfer to someone else.

Only hiccup I've found is that you need Bluetooth 4.0 for the new low-power state, so you'll probably have to buy a dongle even if you have a brand-new fancy laptop.

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Or, you know, a legitimate preference. People like cool looking stuff. Welcome to earth.

Sure, cool looking stuff is great, but if you type for 8+ hours a day, you might want to consider something that won't give you RSI. I mean, there's no lack of cool looking mechanical keyboards, even ones that match Apple products: https://input.club/k-type/ (That one is even USB-C and fully programmable/hackable with an open source firmware.)

How does the keyboard you linked to help reduce repetitive stress injuries?

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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I’m disappointed they chose “pretty” over a “functional” metal box like the old Mac Pros. They ran into thermal issues with the fancy design of the trash can, despite their promises of cutting edge thermal design. These iMac Pros are probably going to be soldered-CPU, soldered-RAM beasts with low repairability. It's a bit of a small victory that they support external GPUs, but I think they are missing the boat here.

Historically, Apple has been verrrrrry anal about making their x-ray marketing images reflect the real design that is hiding inside their units...and I definitely saw RAM sticks in slots when they were showing off the fans. So maybe they have changed course just a little?

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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Or, you know, a legitimate preference. People like cool looking stuff. Welcome to earth.

Sure, cool looking stuff is great, but if you type for 8+ hours a day, you might want to consider something that won't give you RSI. I mean, there's no lack of cool looking mechanical keyboards, even ones that match Apple products: https://input.club/k-type/ (That one is even USB-C and fully programmable/hackable with an open source firmware.)

Why would it give you RSI? I'm struggling to see what's wrong with that keyboard. It looks the exact same as the other Apple keyboards I've always used, just black. And by "the other Apple keyboards I've always used" I do indeed mean the keyboards I've used at my full time jobs and as my keyboard to hack with at home on top of that...

Am I missing something?

Re: Apple Teases Upcoming Space Gray iMac Pro, "the most powerful Mac ever"

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post #74
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This is Apple's answer to their negligence to the Pro market, and it's hugely disappointing. The iMac was already supposed to be a Pro machine. And then they "New Coke"'d it by making it too thin and susceptible to overheating. Performance suffered and now they're compensating with this machine. At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh. It's still locked into the thin form factor that can't be up…

> At $5000 the iMac Pro falls just short of a ~$2000 Hackintosh A 5k Monitor alone costs around $800-1000 and does not compare in quality to Apple displays, 8 core xeon + motherboard are another 800$, it's already around $1600-1800 - and its not taking SSD and Video card and Ram into account...

I don't know about quality not being comparative, the LG panels are great, the real difference is they're not in an Apple aluminum package.
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