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Apple Events – WWDC Keynote, June 2017 [video]

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Re: Apple Events – WWDC Keynote, June 2017 [video]

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Apple is so lost. Who in the world needs that much processing power? 18 core xeon processor ? Really? 4999 for the entry level 8 core xeon processor? Apple who exactly are you targeting? You say you want users who want to do cutting edge stuff with your hardware but are they really going to shell out 5 grande for this, when a custom made pc priced at half that will do the job? Come on here. With the economy in the ta…

If you don't know what the Bloomberg Terminal is, you might find Googling it enlightening.

Re: Apple Events – WWDC Keynote, June 2017 [video]

#53
post #50

wait is the mac not getting 32GB ram options?

Nope. At least there's a $5k iMac! IIRC this is because they need LPDDR to reduce power needs, but no one is near making LPDDR4 in sizes like that yet.

Even with such a low volume product like the iMac pro - they could buy out all the EPYC or Threadripper chips from AMD for the next mac. But I bet Intel is likely selling their CPUs to Apple for a loss just to maintain that relationship.

Re: Apple Events – WWDC Keynote, June 2017 [video]

#54

Apple is so lost. Who in the world needs that much processing power? 18 core xeon processor ? Really? 4999 for the entry level 8 core xeon processor? Apple who exactly are you targeting? You say you want users who want to do cutting edge stuff with your hardware but are they really going to shell out 5 grande for this, when a custom made pc priced at half that will do the job? Come on here. With the economy in the ta…

As the speaker said it's aimed at people doing video editing, 3d graphics, machine-learning, compiling huge code-bases, etc. Basically it's something your work buys if you do one of those things for a job.

If you missed the whole outcry about the Macbook Pro updates last year, some of the criticism was bemoaning the fact the machines weren't powerful enough to cater to the above (along with the trashcan Mac Pro not having received updates in 3-4 years).

(Also care to backup the claim you can match that spec with a PC at half that price, as that would directly contradict the claim made on-stage)?

Re: Apple Events – WWDC Keynote, June 2017 [video]

#55
Did Apple really not learn any lessons from the trashcan Mac Pro? Anyone who purchases that is going to be stuck with the inability to upgrade just like the old Mac Pro. The peripheral upgrade route never materialized with the trashcan and I have no faith it will materialize with this iMac version. And even if it does, wouldn't a Macbook Pro user have the exact same upgrade routes with the added benefit of portability?

Re: Apple Events – WWDC Keynote, June 2017 [video]

#56

Apple is so lost. Who in the world needs that much processing power? 18 core xeon processor ? Really? 4999 for the entry level 8 core xeon processor? Apple who exactly are you targeting? You say you want users who want to do cutting edge stuff with your hardware but are they really going to shell out 5 grande for this, when a custom made pc priced at half that will do the job? Come on here. With the economy in the ta…

Um, professionals? (scientists, graphic designers, architects, analysts). Custom PCs are generally a poor choice in institutional contexts because of high TCO (crappy drivers and nonexistent long-term support).

That said, it seems weird that there hasn't been a reasonable way to have an OS X machine in a data center since the Xserves.

Re: Apple Events – WWDC Keynote, June 2017 [video]

#57
I can't wait until Apple demos their own A-series based mac or macbook. I think apple could scale the ARM architecture to make it wide and Out-of-Order. They have the money, the cozy relationship with SoftBank (who owns ARM), and we all know they like to vertically integrate. They're even bringing graphics in house so why not roll your own graphics, cpu, etc?

Re: Apple Events – WWDC Keynote, June 2017 [video]

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post #56

Apple is so lost. Who in the world needs that much processing power? 18 core xeon processor ? Really? 4999 for the entry level 8 core xeon processor? Apple who exactly are you targeting? You say you want users who want to do cutting edge stuff with your hardware but are they really going to shell out 5 grande for this, when a custom made pc priced at half that will do the job? Come on here. With the economy in the ta…

Um, professionals? (scientists, graphic designers, architects, analysts). Custom PCs are generally a poor choice in institutional contexts because of high TCO (crappy drivers and nonexistent long-term support). That said, it seems weird that there hasn't been a reasonable way to have an OS X machine in a data center since the Xserves.

High-end workstations from other manufacturers aren't "custom PCs" in any way, but still upgradable and serviceable. It's an interesting question if that is necessary or not, MacBooks don't come with really good support packages either and still are immensely popular with professional users. (It's certainly less important than it is with server systems)

Re: Apple Events – WWDC Keynote, June 2017 [video]

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post #47

I wonder how Venmo is going to react after the WWDC announcement of native iOS person-to-person payments via Apple Pay. Native functionality is tough to beat unless Venmo and other p2p payment apps have large enough networks to fight the momentum.

Unless Apple Pay works for p2p with Android devices, Venmo and others will be just fine. Android has a major share of the market, and heterogeneous p2p cash transfers will be needed.
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