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Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

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Re: Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

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post #50

>They have been hearing from ringless voice mail providers and pro-business groups, which argue that these messages should not qualify as calls and, therefore, should be exempt from consumer protection laws that ban similar types of telephone marketing. There's no limit to how low pro-business thinking can go.

There is no "low" in business thinking. Capital is amoral.

Re: Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

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Anyone else in a situation where you're receiving robocalls ten times a day? Hard to believe, but I can show screenshots as proof. I just counted. It's four times per day, like clockwork. Then there are various other robocalls that come in every couple days. So sometimes it's 4 per day, sometimes it's up to 7. It's mildly annoying, but is there any other option than to just ignore it or keep blocking the endless new…

My experience tells me it varies by network. All my family runs on ATT, Verizon and TMobile.. and all get spam by robocalls. Meanwhile I have SimpleTalk (which is a rebrnd t-mobile so you get reception of tmobile network under silly name simpletalk), I got about 10 robocalls since I have this number circa 2011.

Also - certain area codes are hotter than others. While I have Cali number, I know many folks living in Alaska and never got robocalled.

Re: Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

#64

> The Republican National Committee, which is in favor of ringless voice mail, goes as far as to argue that prohibiting direct-to-voice-mail messages may be a violation of free speech. Absurd. The right to free speech does not include forcing others to listen to you.

They are not forcing you to listen to anything. You can a) delete the message or b) change voicemail systems so this does not work. These problems can be mitigated from a technical perspective.

Re: Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

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> The Republican National Committee, which is in favor of ringless voice mail, goes as far as to argue that prohibiting direct-to-voice-mail messages may be a violation of free speech. Absurd. The right to free speech does not include forcing others to listen to you.

The right to free speech does not include forcing others to listen to "it".

Obligatory xkcd https://xkcd.com/1357/

Also the mouse over text applies very well to this situation as well.

Re: Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

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Anyone else in a situation where you're receiving robocalls ten times a day? Hard to believe, but I can show screenshots as proof. I just counted. It's four times per day, like clockwork. Then there are various other robocalls that come in every couple days. So sometimes it's 4 per day, sometimes it's up to 7. It's mildly annoying, but is there any other option than to just ignore it or keep blocking the endless new…

For a long time now I've received many many more robocalls than real calls. It makes me want to turn off the phone features of my phone.

Re: Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sweden. A text message is faster and infinitely more accessible for the recipient.

Heck, a voice message over the chat client of their choice is faster, infinitely more accessible, and still voice.

Well, half of the point is that you don't want voice in the first place...

Re: Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

#69

> The Republican National Committee, which is in favor of ringless voice mail, goes as far as to argue that prohibiting direct-to-voice-mail messages may be a violation of free speech. Absurd. The right to free speech does not include forcing others to listen to you.

They are not forcing you to listen to anything. You can a) delete the message or b) change voicemail systems so this does not work. These problems can be mitigated from a technical perspective.

You have to listen to the message to find out if it is something important...

Re: Ringless voice mails from telemarketers

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> The Republican National Committee, which is in favor of ringless voice mail, goes as far as to argue that prohibiting direct-to-voice-mail messages may be a violation of free speech. Absurd. The right to free speech does not include forcing others to listen to you.

Regardless of if it does or not, what's the likely end result? Spam voicemails become the new email, filtered aggressively, and increasingly ignored over time in favor of less-spam-prone methods. They're asking for something pointlessly unsustainable that would be no different from any of the other high-noise/low-signal-ratio channels they already have.
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