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Déjà vu so extreme that I can’t tell what’s real

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I once had this feeling while being stoned. It was maybe my fourth or fifth time smoking marijuana. For a good two or three hours, every moment I experienced, every conversation I had, I had the feeling that I've lived through it before. A constant Deja Vu. I knew I was stoned, but it still freaked me out. After talking to my friends about this (while still being high), I was able to enjoy and explore it. I asked my…

All they had to do is to ask you to write down the answer before you heard it. And then compare to the actual answer.

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I once had this feeling while being stoned. It was maybe my fourth or fifth time smoking marijuana. For a good two or three hours, every moment I experienced, every conversation I had, I had the feeling that I've lived through it before. A constant Deja Vu. I knew I was stoned, but it still freaked me out. After talking to my friends about this (while still being high), I was able to enjoy and explore it. I asked my…

I've had the same experience while being high! But I was alone, listening to comedy podcasts, not finding them funny because I was -sure- I had heard it before, and all the punchlines were known to me already. It literally made everything not funny because it was old news.

But the extra weird part was that after that, I'd occasionally get similar episodes while sober, for a couple of years

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I've had recursive deja-vu. In them, I remember having a deja-vu (about a deja-vu about a deja-vu ...) in the exact same circumstances. During those, I typically try to do something different than last time, only then "remembering" that I've already tried it in the N-1st layer...

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I've had recursive deja-vu. In them, I remember having a deja-vu (about a deja-vu about a deja-vu ...) in the exact same circumstances. During those, I typically try to do something different than last time, only then "remembering" that I've already tried it in the N-1st layer...

I get it too. We have to break the loop somehow.

Re: Déjà vu so extreme that I can’t tell what’s real

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I once had this feeling while being stoned. It was maybe my fourth or fifth time smoking marijuana. For a good two or three hours, every moment I experienced, every conversation I had, I had the feeling that I've lived through it before. A constant Deja Vu. I knew I was stoned, but it still freaked me out. After talking to my friends about this (while still being high), I was able to enjoy and explore it. I asked my…

Something similar happened to me one of my "first times" as well (I had tried weed a number of times beforehand, but all of those times had been spaced out by months and none were very intense). I had smoked only smaller amounts before and ended up smoking many, many bowls out of my friend's bong without really thinking much of it. A moment of panic set in as I was inhaling my last hit and began to feel the effects of all the THC in my body at once, which made the high feel almost overpowering. A couple minutes later as the high began to set in in full charge I got to a point where I could not discern reality from what was in front of me; I could carry conversation with my friend or perform basic tasks, but every single second I would have a mental breakthrough that what I was experiencing was real. I still remember every moment of it, but during that experience it was as though my short-term memory had entirely ceased to function and I was forced to relive the previous moments by recalling them from my long-term memory. It definitely felt like Deja Vu, but the experience was also very unique (and frightening). The message I was left with was that drugs can be very profound, and they're likely the key to understanding many phenomena behind how the brain works. As frightening as it was, I would like to venture that deep to experience the same things again and hopefully explore that part of my brain.

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I once had this feeling while being stoned. It was maybe my fourth or fifth time smoking marijuana. For a good two or three hours, every moment I experienced, every conversation I had, I had the feeling that I've lived through it before. A constant Deja Vu. I knew I was stoned, but it still freaked me out. After talking to my friends about this (while still being high), I was able to enjoy and explore it. I asked my…

I have this same experience with dreams at least a few times a month. For example I'll have a dream where I'm recounting a real-life story to a friend or family member. Later on, during my waking life, I'll tell the story again to someone and I won't be able to tell if I've told the story to them before or not, regardless if they are the person from the dream. Sometimes, I won't even remember the dream and I have the…

Strangely, these are the only types of dreams I can ever recollect. On the occasions that I do remember my dreams after waking up, it's often because they are related to a very specific thought I had before falling asleep (especially during short naps) and I immediately think of that after waking up. In these situations, it becomes very difficult to discern what has and hasn't happened, and I often need to think for a few minutes or check my texts in order to solve the mystery. Other times, it just comes down to a goal coming to mind that I feel like I have accomplished already, even though it only occurred in a dream. It's almost as if my thoughts from the dream remain in my subconscious, and despite being able to tell what was and was not real in these situations, I have a lingering feeling of some sort of experience related to the specific goals that I use to "dig up" the dream from my memories.

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I once had this feeling while being stoned. It was maybe my fourth or fifth time smoking marijuana. For a good two or three hours, every moment I experienced, every conversation I had, I had the feeling that I've lived through it before. A constant Deja Vu. I knew I was stoned, but it still freaked me out. After talking to my friends about this (while still being high), I was able to enjoy and explore it. I asked my…

I've had the same experience while being high! But I was alone, listening to comedy podcasts, not finding them funny because I was -sure- I had heard it before, and all the punchlines were known to me already. It literally made everything not funny because it was old news. But the extra weird part was that after that, I'd occasionally get similar episodes while sober, for a couple of years

I think that, to some extent, psychedelic trips can "awaken" the mind to future experiences. Like LSD or psilocybin, THC seems to have some of these elements that cause an "awakening". While there may be no physical changes to the brain, you still "wake up" to new types of experiences that you did not know were possible before, and the pattern-recognition part of your brain tries to connect new thoughts to those memories. So when your brain enters a similar headspace to where you were during the original "episode," it will try to find similarities between those events (despite the absence of THC). This connection might be as simple as just listening to jokes, and your brain would connect the action of processing a joke to what you felt at the time of the high. Using its "learned experiences," your brain would try to apply the old thought-process to that moment. Then again, THC has been shown to have some persisting effects on memory and these are not fully understood yet. For all we know, it could be a long-lasting effect of THC. Either way, this sounds kind of similar to HPPD, and the idea that it could be a subconscious attempt to connect two events seems very possible as an explanation to HPPD in general.

Re: Déjà vu so extreme that I can’t tell what’s real

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One of the weirdest things about Deja Vu is that (in its most intense form) it can often seemingly create future memories. My first experience with Deja Vu that I can remember involved what I could only describe as predicting the future. While the events I "predicted" didn't end up happening, it felt as though I knew exactly what "path" I was on and what would happen next. It's a very scary feeling that makes it seem as if you've been sent back in time or you are presently dreaming.

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I once had this feeling while being stoned. It was maybe my fourth or fifth time smoking marijuana. For a good two or three hours, every moment I experienced, every conversation I had, I had the feeling that I've lived through it before. A constant Deja Vu. I knew I was stoned, but it still freaked me out. After talking to my friends about this (while still being high), I was able to enjoy and explore it. I asked my…

Something similar happened to me one of my "first times" as well (I had tried weed a number of times beforehand, but all of those times had been spaced out by months and none were very intense). I had smoked only smaller amounts before and ended up smoking many, many bowls out of my friend's bong without really thinking much of it. A moment of panic set in as I was inhaling my last hit and began to feel the effects o…

After smoking a good amount I had a similar experience in which it seemed, as you said, that I stopped forming short term memories. I also had a nearly constant sensation of "just having woken up," as if every minute or so I was regaining consciousness after having been asleep. I even asked my friend several times, "Was I asleep?" to which the reply was always, "No, you've just been sitting there."
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