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Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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> Anti-tourist graffiti has begun to appear, with “No tourists past this point” painted on a street in the old city and “Why call it tourist season if we can’t shoot them?” near the popular Park Güell. In recent weeks, several hotels have also been attacked with stones and paint bombs. Wow. This is shocking when Barcelona is a city that earns a sizable chunk of revenue from tourism. The annual report published by the…

Anti-tourist movement in Barcelona is a minority, mainly from extreme-left parties and activists from Catalan nationalist parties. I live in Barcelona, and I'm ashamed of those xenophobic acts. My guess is that over 90% of Barcelona population don't endorse such xenophobic attitude. Despite being affected personally, e.g. because of tourism flat rental makes generic rental to have huge price increases (15% year to ye…

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Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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> Anti-tourist graffiti has begun to appear, with “No tourists past this point” painted on a street in the old city and “Why call it tourist season if we can’t shoot them?” near the popular Park Güell. In recent weeks, several hotels have also been attacked with stones and paint bombs. Wow. This is shocking when Barcelona is a city that earns a sizable chunk of revenue from tourism. The annual report published by the…

Anti-tourist movement in Barcelona is a minority, mainly from extreme-left parties and activists from Catalan nationalist parties. I live in Barcelona, and I'm ashamed of those xenophobic acts. My guess is that over 90% of Barcelona population don't endorse such xenophobic attitude. Despite being affected personally, e.g. because of tourism flat rental makes generic rental to have huge price increases (15% year to ye…

It's kind of crazy because I suspect a large portion of the tourist crowd (especially those from the us) would probably sympathize with Catalan separatism.

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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> Anti-tourist graffiti has begun to appear, with “No tourists past this point” painted on a street in the old city and “Why call it tourist season if we can’t shoot them?” near the popular Park Güell. In recent weeks, several hotels have also been attacked with stones and paint bombs. Wow. This is shocking when Barcelona is a city that earns a sizable chunk of revenue from tourism. The annual report published by the…

Anti-tourist movement in Barcelona is a minority, mainly from extreme-left parties and activists from Catalan nationalist parties. I live in Barcelona, and I'm ashamed of those xenophobic acts. My guess is that over 90% of Barcelona population don't endorse such xenophobic attitude. Despite being affected personally, e.g. because of tourism flat rental makes generic rental to have huge price increases (15% year to ye…

I'm unfamiliar with the situation if not for a couple news stories, but tourists can be overwhelming. As a stambouliote, I can say that it's only in the last couple of years I can go to places like Eminonu and Taksim to get things done. I recall Eminonu from 4-5 years ago, man, it was impossible to walk, an underpass mere 15 metres long took a quarter of an hour to pass, and when I had to go to Tahtakale to buy some stuff for cheap, I better waited winter... All the madness with politics and terrorism aside, I'm kind-a pleased that so less people are coming, for the mere fact that the city is "usable" now. It's completely possible that your fellow citizens be overwhelmed by it, and AFAIK Barcelona gets more tourists than when Istanbul was not hit by terror.

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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Yes, just imagine that a city tries to deal with being overrun. They don't hate the tourists, they try to stay as organized as they can. There is such a thing as being too popular and the tourists converging on Barcelona are starting to make life for the people that live there harder and harder (rising rents, for once thing). You'll be more than welcome in Barcelona, it's a fantastic place to visit though you'll have…

I'm sure you are welcoming, but when the streets are painted with anti tourist messaging, then "you'll be more than welcome" sounds a bit hollow.

The streets aren't painted with tourist messaging. Some streets have some anti-tourist graffiti. Teenage edge-lord shitheads are a world-wide phenomenon. If you don't want to visit Barcelona because of some graffiti, you'd better stay inside your house 24/7 in Chicago for fear of being shot.

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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Anti-tourist movement in Barcelona is a minority, mainly from extreme-left parties and activists from Catalan nationalist parties. I live in Barcelona, and I'm ashamed of those xenophobic acts. My guess is that over 90% of Barcelona population don't endorse such xenophobic attitude. Despite being affected personally, e.g. because of tourism flat rental makes generic rental to have huge price increases (15% year to ye…

It's kind of crazy because I suspect a large portion of the tourist crowd (especially those from the us) would probably sympathize with Catalan separatism.

I hope not. In my opinion, the Catalan separatist movement is clearly not democratic (despite using agitprop equaling self-determination to democracy, which is a fallacy), and often, xenophobic ("Spain robs us"). I hope that once the economy gets fully recovered, nationalist people will go back to a more rational position.

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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Anti-tourist movement in Barcelona is a minority, mainly from extreme-left parties and activists from Catalan nationalist parties. I live in Barcelona, and I'm ashamed of those xenophobic acts. My guess is that over 90% of Barcelona population don't endorse such xenophobic attitude. Despite being affected personally, e.g. because of tourism flat rental makes generic rental to have huge price increases (15% year to ye…

I'm unfamiliar with the situation if not for a couple news stories, but tourists can be overwhelming. As a stambouliote, I can say that it's only in the last couple of years I can go to places like Eminonu and Taksim to get things done. I recall Eminonu from 4-5 years ago, man, it was impossible to walk, an underpass mere 15 metres long took a quarter of an hour to pass, and when I had to go to Tahtakale to buy some…

Sure, sometimes it is not easy, e.g. using the metro ("underground") in Saturdays or Sundays is quite uncomfortable. However, that allows to avoid increasing ticket prices, because of optimal utilization. So in the end, a bit of discomfort during 3 months for getting very cheap public transport during the whole year is a good deal, in my opinion, as there is no such thing as a free lunch [1] :-)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain%27t_no_such_thing_as...

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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No, because of tourist rentals are not enough for covering the local demand, the problem is 10x bigger.

Regarding people needs, in my opinion the problem is that people in charge in local government (Barcelona city) is not focused in solving the problems, but in agitprop for increasing their own power (currently the extreme-left is governing Barcelona in minority). Also, regional government (Catalonia) is focused in doing separatist agitprop in order to hide their corruption. In top of that, central government (government of the country, Spain) has no competences to help in the housing problems, as most competences in that regard are local/regional.

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It's kind of crazy because I suspect a large portion of the tourist crowd (especially those from the us) would probably sympathize with Catalan separatism.

I hope not. In my opinion, the Catalan separatist movement is clearly not democratic (despite using agitprop equaling self-determination to democracy, which is a fallacy), and often, xenophobic ("Spain robs us"). I hope that once the economy gets fully recovered, nationalist people will go back to a more rational position.

stop spreading political bullshit in a technology forum. Better go back to El Pais

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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> Anti-tourist graffiti has begun to appear, with “No tourists past this point” painted on a street in the old city and “Why call it tourist season if we can’t shoot them?” near the popular Park Güell. In recent weeks, several hotels have also been attacked with stones and paint bombs. Wow. This is shocking when Barcelona is a city that earns a sizable chunk of revenue from tourism. The annual report published by the…

> This is shocking when Barcelona is a city that earns a sizable chunk of revenue from tourism. Yes, some people earn a sizable chunk, but I highly doubt that common people benefits from it.

not sure why this is downvoted when it's perfectly reasonable

Re: Barcelona cracks down on Airbnb rentals with illegal apartment squads

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post #48
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope not. In my opinion, the Catalan separatist movement is clearly not democratic (despite using agitprop equaling self-determination to democracy, which is a fallacy), and often, xenophobic ("Spain robs us"). I hope that once the economy gets fully recovered, nationalist people will go back to a more rational position.

stop spreading political bullshit in a technology forum. Better go back to El Pais

Any real argument, or your point is just to censor my opinion?
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