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Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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Fun fact: the mobile app for associate delivery was written in F# using Xamarin. Source: I work at Jet, but not on this team.

Why F#?

https://tech.jet.com/blog/2015/03-22-on-how-jet-chose/

The app for associate delivery was written by Jet developers. Pretty much all of Jet's code is written in F#.

Edit: Actually I think it was written mostly by a contractor who had experience writing Xamarin apps in F#, possibly with contributions from full-time Jet developers.

Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, huge difference between "deliver this on your way home or your fired" and "if you want some extra money, deliver this on your way home." Not much difference between this and, say, LaserShip, aside from it being a small part of the overall job.

Well, where the rubber meets the road here is in whether or not there is an unspoken expectation that you need to do this, compensation or not. "Official" policy doesn't always reflect what gets implemented, and is sometimes just used as a way to legally CYA so that you can have your cake and eat it too.

Exactly! If part of middle management's evaluation is based on how many packages their underlings deliver, middle management will start hiring (or give more hours to) people they think are more likely to signup for this and cut (or reduce hours to) people that don't do this.

Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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The discomfort I have with this is that Wal-Mart has a long history of sensible corporate policies (seriously, Wal-Mart at the corporate level has been surprisingly progressive on a lot of issues) that turn into draconian mandates by regional or store managers who are under intense pressure to maximize profit-per-employee. This just sounds like another good idea by corporate that will inevitably be crammed down worke…

I don't think corporate gets a pass on this. If they were serious about creating a more progressive workplace, they could change the incentive schemes for managers or fire managers who don't comply with the spirit of their policies.

Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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> Workers can opt in to earn extra money by making deliveries using their own cars. They’re assigned packages based on where they live so the route aligns with their commute home The headline makes it sound coercive but that actually sounds like an efficient use of time and energy (less big trucks on the road, less miles driven, more money for people who want it). I wouldn't mind dropping a few things off on my way h…

Ugh. I think that this sort of attitude (which was my initial reaction too) is a big part of what's wrong with our current economy. If you take the concept at face value, this is Walmart offering to let their employees make some extra money in exchange for a bit of extra work, once they've clocked out. What a nice company. But realistically, this is Walmart shunting the costs of delivery onto their employees. Instead…

It blows my mind how libertarian/naive techy types are. But I also suspect there's some right-wing nutjob organization spamming hacker news comments with pro-business community idiocy.

Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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> Workers can opt in to earn extra money by making deliveries using their own cars. They’re assigned packages based on where they live so the route aligns with their commute home The headline makes it sound coercive but that actually sounds like an efficient use of time and energy (less big trucks on the road, less miles driven, more money for people who want it). I wouldn't mind dropping a few things off on my way h…

Ugh. I think that this sort of attitude (which was my initial reaction too) is a big part of what's wrong with our current economy. If you take the concept at face value, this is Walmart offering to let their employees make some extra money in exchange for a bit of extra work, once they've clocked out. What a nice company. But realistically, this is Walmart shunting the costs of delivery onto their employees. Instead…

Yes, exactly. I could imagine an after-shift delivery taking up to an hour to complete. (I'm factoring-in "find the place" time and retracing their steps after delivery) They will probably only be paid a per Diem for the delivery - and it won't be near their hourly wage nor gas/wear & tear costs.

It's a nice thought on the outside...but ultimately, deliveries are best done by actually specialized outfits.

I can also imagine a manager changing everyones' schedules around the deliveries. That could seriously impact people.

Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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Fun fact: the mobile app for associate delivery was written in F# using Xamarin. Source: I work at Jet, but not on this team.

Also if anyone is interested here's the announcement blog post.

http://blog.walmart.com/innovation/20170601/serving-customer...

Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh. I think that this sort of attitude (which was my initial reaction too) is a big part of what's wrong with our current economy. If you take the concept at face value, this is Walmart offering to let their employees make some extra money in exchange for a bit of extra work, once they've clocked out. What a nice company. But realistically, this is Walmart shunting the costs of delivery onto their employees. Instead…

Wouldn't this result in increased risk of delivery failure, package damage, or even non-professional delivery-driver injury? If anything, this is low-end, but yes, it sounds cheap. I think it'd be a good practice to examine competitive offerings for delivery per area, e.g., offerings such as Postmates and similar. If there's someone willing to pay them more, then I feel that the employee may have enough options for f…

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Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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> Workers can opt in to earn extra money by making deliveries using their own cars. They’re assigned packages based on where they live so the route aligns with their commute home The headline makes it sound coercive but that actually sounds like an efficient use of time and energy (less big trucks on the road, less miles driven, more money for people who want it). I wouldn't mind dropping a few things off on my way h…

Environmentally friendly too as the journey is being made anyway.

> Environmentally friendly too as the journey is being made anyway.

It's a financial incentive for employees not to use transit but instead personal autos to and from work in order to be available for such deliveries, so it's actually environmentally hostile.

Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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The discomfort I have with this is that Wal-Mart has a long history of sensible corporate policies (seriously, Wal-Mart at the corporate level has been surprisingly progressive on a lot of issues) that turn into draconian mandates by regional or store managers who are under intense pressure to maximize profit-per-employee. This just sounds like another good idea by corporate that will inevitably be crammed down worke…

In general I think this is a pretty cool program, but what I worry about is the "optional" nature of it. Do people who go the extra mile get promoted faster? Qualify for more raises? Don't get let go during slower times?

I could see it becoming a stick pretty quick.

Re: Wal-Mart will pay employees to deliver packages on their way home

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The discomfort I have with this is that Wal-Mart has a long history of sensible corporate policies (seriously, Wal-Mart at the corporate level has been surprisingly progressive on a lot of issues) that turn into draconian mandates by regional or store managers who are under intense pressure to maximize profit-per-employee. This just sounds like another good idea by corporate that will inevitably be crammed down worke…

The intense pressure is itself a product of corporate policy, so its effects must also be considered in assessing the reasonableness of other corporate policies which interact with it.
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