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Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Post by Sir_Substance »

jevgeni wrote: post #158
zero_shift wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And who pays for the investigative reports? Who pays for the academics who spend their lifetimes researching the field we're reading about? Who pays salaries so the best people can make a living doing what they're truly great at? Who makes enough money to get big and old enough to gain a reputation? Without which, the news is a hail of unsubstantiated bulletins from semianonymous writers, a wilderness of mirrors and…

Oh, come on man, the academics should would for kudos. /s

Academics are paid with tax dollars.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Post by Sir_Substance »

BoiledCabbage wrote: post #186
Sir_Substance wrote: post #105

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>A model like this is necessary to support quality content online. It's totally not. People essentially enjoy creating and sharing, and love putting up quality content about things they truly give a shit about. The internet was built on people writing massive forums posts about completely stripping down Kawasaki motorbike engines, and hosting their own websites where they ramble about conditional probability. Wikiped…

> The internet was built on people writing massive forums posts about completely stripping down Kawasaki motorbike engines... Yes the internet came about because of academics and hobbyists playing around in their spare time. We as people who often came up during that time have a habit of over-weighting that. The internet is not a side project anymore. The internet is the future of every industry - and absolutely the…

>You can't expect every industry to be reduced to what can be produced by hobbyists working for free in their spare time.

You're implying that it's in some fashion my job to care about those industries.

I don't care what happens to buzzfeed, and I don't care what happens to the wallstreet journal. /My life/ and /my needs/ and met regardless of their existence, so I really don't give a shit whether they are sustainable or not.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Post by ElijahLynn »

fkooman wrote: post #62
sundvor wrote: post #40

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I want a UBlock where in place of ads a single micro tipping facility is inserted. Maybe the website can remember this for the future, etc. I've done a few PayPal tips but it's just too clunky / unfit for purpose.

https://www.brave.com/

Brave is the first real solution to this issue. Big fan of Brave. Once they get the extensions more compatible then the user base will grow rapidly.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Post by ElijahLynn »

Eridrus wrote: post #160
cptskippy wrote: post #145

I've been participating in Google Contributor since it's inception, this is like the 3rd relaunch of the service. I have no doubt it will fail just like the past iterations because the fundamental flaw is that Google is the heart of the system and they're unwilling to extricate themselves from it. I don't think this type of service is the way forward and the solution will not come from Google or any other ad provider…

> Any payments to avoid ads served by these companies would require compensating all of these companies I think you misunderstood how this iteration of Contributor would work; the publisher integrates Google's contributor code in such a way that if you pay them, they don't show you any ads, no need to worry about the ad ecosystem. > People want to maintain their privacy I will start believing this when people start a…

Brave isn't fully launched yet. They are still working on making extensions work via API compatibility. Once they nail extensions, I and a ton of others will switch from Chrome.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Post by ElijahLynn »

kemonocode wrote: post #157
cptskippy wrote: post #145

I've been participating in Google Contributor since it's inception, this is like the 3rd relaunch of the service. I have no doubt it will fail just like the past iterations because the fundamental flaw is that Google is the heart of the system and they're unwilling to extricate themselves from it. I don't think this type of service is the way forward and the solution will not come from Google or any other ad provider…

I think the whole "fill up a digital wallet with cryptocurrency" thing is what Brave is (was?) attempting but without much success. I do think it's the future, they just took the wrong approach (Replacing others' ads with your own IS going to create bad blood no matter how you spin it) and were too early for it.

You don't have to fill up a digital wallet with cryptocurrency with Brave, you can still block ads without doing that.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Post by pradn »

SamBam wrote: post #187
catskull wrote: post #176

Wait so it only works on those 4 websites? I've only heard of Popular Mechanics, but I rarely (if ever) visit their site. If this was more like Youtube Red, I'd be all over this. I would love to pay to remove all google ads. I get that uBlock exists, but I want to support the sites I use. Unrelated: the sidenav thing is empty? WTF?

I don't understand why it doesn't work for all Google Ads. The content creator would just like the money. They don't actually want to display the ads. If they could get the money without displaying the ads, they'd be over the moon. Why doesn't Google make it work across all sites, and pay the sites using Google Ads the average revenue they were already getting per page view?

Well, Google gets a lot more than a few cents for many categories of ads. At the extreme case, medical lawsuit ads can charge around $50 per click.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Post by ElijahLynn »

cptskippy wrote: post #168
kemonocode wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the whole "fill up a digital wallet with cryptocurrency" thing is what Brave is (was?) attempting but without much success. I do think it's the future, they just took the wrong approach (Replacing others' ads with your own IS going to create bad blood no matter how you spin it) and were too early for it.

The trouble with Brave's approach is that it removes the user's choice of browsers.

Not really a big issue but ultimately all the browsers will probably follow this approach. Once you taste speed it is hard to go back.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Post by ElijahLynn »

wand3r wrote: post #103
BoiledCabbage wrote: post #15

Whether it comes from Google, or someone else I believe this is the only way the web survives. Content creators need to be able to charge different amounts for different quality content. In depth, well researched reporting needs to be able to earn more than a buzzfeed article. That's not possible with a flat "per-eyeball" cost, where the revenue to the content creator is uncorrelated with the cost to create or the va…

Brave Software

+100

I was a Google Contributor user/paying subscriber for quite a while. It works to some degree. But Brave is superior and is the best thing to happen to the web since ads.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Post by ElijahLynn »

comm1 wrote: post #49

One has to mention the Brave browser for comparison: https://brave.com/ -- similar concept but using Bitcoin. The accounting at https://brave.com/publishers.html looks like you as the reader can DECIDE whether you want to issue micropayments to a particular site or not, and publishers don't have to explicitly opt-in beforehand (thereby instantly including all of the web). A publisher won't be able to charge different…

+100 for Brave. Also worth noting you can still block ads without paying with Brave. But if you want to contribute, then you can.
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