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Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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This doesn't seem that useful to me as only a small number of sites (none of which I visit) support it. Hypothetical question: If I were allowed to bid on my own ad impressions - and if I won an auction, no ad would be shown - how much would it cost a month for me to see no adverts? (I realize this is heavily dependent upon the type of sites that are involved, so I guess take the average HN user as an example).

According to my first search result [1], average CPC is 2.04$ with 1.16% CTR. Say you see 200 pages a day, 2 ads each. You end up at 9.5$/day. https://www.hochmanconsultants.com/cost-of-ppc-advertising/

Those are paid search numbers. Display is for like avg $2 cpm. (.06% ctr, but it's paid based on impressions not clicks)

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Isn't this how the mob works? Pay us to protect you from us.

You mean extortion.

No. Google don't demand that you view ads, the content creators of the pages you visit do.

This is an advertising company imaging a future of ad-blocking browsers and dabbling in a new revenue stream: providing a platform for patron/creator and taking a slice of the dough.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enthusiastic individuals. I personally have content which I host on Digital Ocean droplets and which do not generate any kind of revenue for me.

And who pays for the investigative reports? Who pays for the academics who spend their lifetimes researching the field we're reading about? Who pays salaries so the best people can make a living doing what they're truly great at? Who makes enough money to get big and old enough to gain a reputation? Without which, the news is a hail of unsubstantiated bulletins from semianonymous writers, a wilderness of mirrors and…

I'm sure Putin will be very happy to subsidize lots of reporting for Americans coming from Russia Today! There all the content you want! It might not be good for our democracy, but that may not have been included in the problem statement. :-)

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think Google makes the laws around distribution of music. Try talking to the RIAA and friends.

It's not a distribution issue - he already listens to the same music through Google Music scubscription as would be provided by Google Red, if it were available. Google Red can still impose territorial restrictions.

It's not Google Red that is imposing territorial restrictions. After all, Google Red doesn't own the copyright to the music in question, and the copyright owners get to make those decisions.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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A little concerned, I'm bootstrapping my own version of what they have built, but with a clearer charging model and no need to block Ads IMO. If you care about blocking ads you are already doing it. It'll be launching in literally a week or two... it's very simple to integrate and comes with it's own Wordpress plugin (and instructions to integrate your own CMS). What advice do people have about this per article payme…

I had an idea for something similar to this as well. Have not put code behind it though. Could you post link to your solution?

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Whether it comes from Google, or someone else I believe this is the only way the web survives. Content creators need to be able to charge different amounts for different quality content. In depth, well researched reporting needs to be able to earn more than a buzzfeed article. That's not possible with a flat "per-eyeball" cost, where the revenue to the content creator is uncorrelated with the cost to create or the va…

I think you're conflating the Web and the commercial portion of the Web.

It's pretty clear that he's talking about the display ad supported portion of the web.

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Cancelled already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Contributor Google Contributor was a program run by Google that allowed users in the Google Network of content sites to view the websites without any advertisements that are administered, sorted, and maintained by Google. The program started with prominent websites, like The Onion and Mashable among others, to test this service. After November 2015, the program…

The first iteration was cancelled, this is the new iteration that launched yesterday.

Why should we trust it this time?

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds a bit like good 'ol protection money, though ("You don't want some malware on your pc, do you?"[0]). A business classic but not exactly what you'd want from a tech company. [0] http://www.businessinsider.de/android-malware-spreads-using-...

Google is the one ad network I'd expect to at least make an effort to scan for and filter malware-infested ads, for one reason: They're a household name and they have other products that actual consumers use. If there were a headline tomorrow that some random ad network distributed malware onto consumer's computers, everyone would say "never heard of them before" and move on. If the headline were "Google spreads malw…

>Google is the one ad network I'd expect to at least make an effort to scan for and filter malware-infested ads, for one reason: They're a household name and they have other products that actual consumers use.

They have already served up malware from ads: https://www.theverge.com/2014/9/19/6537511/google-ad-network...

Re: Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web

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post #37

Maybe if Google went with "Pay us $10 per month for us not to show you any AdSense anywhere on the web", this would be successful. In this form, I highly doubt it.

This is exactly what the first version of contributor was, clearly it was not popular enough to keep around.
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