With 12 websites out of which I visited 1, once, I suspect another Google abandoned project in 18 months.
Google Contributor: Buy an ad removal pass for the web
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#122Is this spotify premium for web pages ?
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wish they would launch this; I happily pay $10/month for YouTube Red right now for exactly this. And here I wish I could pay for YouTube Red. From what I've heard, YouTube Red users get Google Play Music for free. Ironically, I pay Google more than $10 a month for Google Play Music alone, but they won't let me pay for YouTube Red, even if I want to. Why? God knows. If they're going to be the gatekeepers to paid o…
I don't think Google makes the laws around distribution of music. Try talking to the RIAA and friends.
It's not a distribution issue - he already listens to the same music through Google Music scubscription as would be provided by Google Red, if it were available.
Google Red can still impose territorial restrictions.
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#124Whether it comes from Google, or someone else I believe this is the only way the web survives. Content creators need to be able to charge different amounts for different quality content. In depth, well researched reporting needs to be able to earn more than a buzzfeed article. That's not possible with a flat "per-eyeball" cost, where the revenue to the content creator is uncorrelated with the cost to create or the va…
And it has to come from the ad networks, because the infrastructure to make this work is already there - hopefully the ultimate form of this wouldn't require site admins to really do anything special, other than twiddling a few settings in their Google advertising accounts. The real trouble being the more people who use that kind of thing, the more the value of adverts goes down...
I'm not seeing an issue. How is it worse than ad blockers?
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
>A model like this is necessary to support quality content online. It's totally not. People essentially enjoy creating and sharing, and love putting up quality content about things they truly give a shit about. The internet was built on people writing massive forums posts about completely stripping down Kawasaki motorbike engines, and hosting their own websites where they ramble about conditional probability. Wikiped…
So who pays for the servers?
Enthusiastic individuals. I personally have content which I host on Digital Ocean droplets and which do not generate any kind of revenue for me.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
So who pays for the servers?
Enthusiastic individuals. I personally have content which I host on Digital Ocean droplets and which do not generate any kind of revenue for me.
And who pays for the investigative reports?
Who pays for the academics who spend their lifetimes researching the field we're reading about?
Who pays salaries so the best people can make a living doing what they're truly great at?
Who makes enough money to get big and old enough to gain a reputation? Without which, the news is a hail of unsubstantiated bulletins from semianonymous writers, a wilderness of mirrors and fake news amped up to eleven?
Believing that we can make content totally free is utopian. You might as well ask why to bother paying software engineers large salaries when open source software exists.
In a world where content is free, all that happens is that newspapers become the organs of plutocrats and political groups. If you want to imagine how the internet looks when content is totally free, imagine a Facebook news feed written by the Koch brothers.
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#127I really think a much better system would be for websites to adopt GNU Taler, and allow people to conduct micropayments using digital cash. The system is about as seamless as Flattr, except that the website can actually charge an amount rather than a fraction. But, most importantly, Flattr guarantees the anonymity of consumers' transactions. So the big G won't have a log of what websites you paid to access.
But Flattr will. The data is still being generated. It's a matter of whom you trust with this data.
Sorry, I meant Taler not Flattr in the last line. Taler uses blind signatures to protect the spending habits of users from being discoverable by vendors or mints.
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#128Isn't this how the mob works? Pay us to protect you from us.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to my first search result [1], average CPC is 2.04$ with 1.16% CTR. Say you see 200 pages a day, 2 ads each. You end up at 9.5$/day. https://www.hochmanconsultants.com/cost-of-ppc-advertising/
Shouldn't you multiply by your specific click through rate? For many people, this is 0.
Indeed. I'm almost 30 and I don't think I've ever clicked on an ad in my life. Cost per impression seems more relevant.
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#130This doesn't seem that useful to me as only a small number of sites (none of which I visit) support it. Hypothetical question: If I were allowed to bid on my own ad impressions - and if I won an auction, no ad would be shown - how much would it cost a month for me to see no adverts? (I realize this is heavily dependent upon the type of sites that are involved, so I guess take the average HN user as an example).
So each ad gets a quality score based on clicks. After a few days of no clicks, your own ads would be pulled for a higher quality and more profitable ad would replace it.
Display ads don't get quality scores, that is only for search ads. Display is just auction price.