Perl 5.26.0 released

Post by SmirkingRevenge » Thu, Jun 01, 2017, 4:06 PM UTC

maxlybbert wrote: post #70

0xFFC wrote: post #3

Guys I am genuinely asking this and I have zero intent on bashing on Perl. What is the position of Perl industry right now? how much it can compete with Python. Where does it compete? is it on losing side ? P.S. I am student and I have no real perspective on what is going on in industry right now.

Perl has great Unicode support. Not just Unicode regexes, but a lot of built-in Unicode support ( https://perldoc.perl.org/perlunicode.html ). I have no idea if other languages have caught up, though. Perl doesn't have anything like Python's GIL. People have other complaints about threading in Perl, but you can count on things running in parallel more often. I believe Larry Wall is correct that he borrowed more from…

Post by pyre » Thu, Jun 01, 2017, 4:31 PM UTC

btilly wrote: post #93

pyre wrote: post #88

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The one thing that I miss in Python is true anonymous functions. Perl has them. JavaScript has them. Ruby has them. Python just has lambda functions which can only evaluate an expression.

Meh. In Python you can put a def inside of any scope you want and do anything that you want with it. The fact that it winds up with a name in that scope doesn't stop it from being anonymous everywhere else. At that point the difference is just syntax.

  function myFunc () {
    var myFunc2 = function () {};
    return myFunc3().then(myFunc2);
  }

Post by dragonwriter » Thu, Jun 01, 2017, 4:37 PM UTC

sverhagen wrote: post #4

tete wrote: post #2

Wow, I haven't looked at Perl in a while, but all sorts of numbers mentioned in the announcement really surprise me. Btw., as mentioned in announcement. The actual changes are here, if you missed that: https://metacpan.org/pod/release/XSAWYERX/perl-5.26.0/pod/pe...

Yes, impressive community effort for a language that... Well... I have heard nothing good about in any "at the water cooler" conversation that I was ever in, over the past fifteen years or so. Except, of course, that Perl is awesome at regular expressions, an advantage that most languages must have caught up on, no? Not for nothing Perl shows up in most hated-lists all around town (top 10 at Stack Overflow).

Post by dragonwriter » Thu, Jun 01, 2017, 4:39 PM UTC

rcthompson wrote: post #49

sverhagen wrote: post #4

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Yes, impressive community effort for a language that... Well... I have heard nothing good about in any "at the water cooler" conversation that I was ever in, over the past fifteen years or so. Except, of course, that Perl is awesome at regular expressions, an advantage that most languages must have caught up on, no? Not for nothing Perl shows up in most hated-lists all around town (top 10 at Stack Overflow).

Perl is still the only language I've seen that has a dedicated syntax for regular expressions. Every other language requires you to write your regexes as strings, which puts you squarely in backslash hell. (I'm sure there must be other languages with dedicated regex syntax, but I'm not aware of any.)

Post by dragonwriter » Thu, Jun 01, 2017, 4:45 PM UTC

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FYI rurban is a well known Perl programmer who hates almost everyone.

I'm not hating anyone. I'm warning about the destructive work of 5 major p5p committers, who ran down the project. They are the haters and trolls, who are doing the name calling. and doing the destruction to the code base. I'm the one who is fixing the mess.