With a jet engine, air is your friend, because it is the matter you spit out the back of the engine. And at the much smaller speeds of an airplane, mechanical and thermal stresses are much smaller.
Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
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Re: Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
#62IANARS but this plane should give the remaining stage(s) four advantages: 1. +230m/s orbital velocity [1] 2. +9km launch altitude [1] 3. can launch in more weather conditions 4. 1st stage can abort mid-launch without loss of payload. Of these, the most important is the increase in launch altitude, because that means stage 2 launches in air of greatly decreased density, leading to the following efficiencies: A. a vacu…
Is 4. really doable? Would have thought landing while carrying a fully fueled rocket might be pretty high risk.
Re: Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is 4. really doable? Would have thought landing while carrying a fully fueled rocket might be pretty high risk.
I haven't actually seen anyone mention it, but it shouldn't be much more risky than taking off fully-fueled. That said, landing with the rocket still on board might break some fuel-balancing assumptions.
for example the a340-600 has a MTOW of 380 tons but a Max landing weight of 265 tons. Just a bit of a difference.
Re: Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
#64IANARS but this plane should give the remaining stage(s) four advantages: 1. +230m/s orbital velocity [1] 2. +9km launch altitude [1] 3. can launch in more weather conditions 4. 1st stage can abort mid-launch without loss of payload. Of these, the most important is the increase in launch altitude, because that means stage 2 launches in air of greatly decreased density, leading to the following efficiencies: A. a vacu…
The primary advantage of airplane launch is that you can fly to into a launch window for an orbital rendezvous. Otherwise you'd have to wait for the target's orbit to be just right w/respect to the launch site, or do a long orbit matching process. This is very useful if say you want to very quickly and quietly launch something towards another satellite. People are making comparisons with the Spruce Goose, but the Glo…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneering_Spirit_(ship)
There are videos of this thing lifting an entire oil platform at once.
Re: Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
#65Since the Orbital ATK Pegasus already exists and already has a customised plane it launches from, can we assume launching Pegasus is just phase 1 for this plane? If that's all it's going to do there would be no point. So presumably this has capabilities the current Pegasus launch plane doesn't have, and eventually we'll see it launching something like a Pegasus XL Plus? Do we have any indication how big a rocket this…
Re: Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
#66But the rational part of my brain kicks in and slaps me down for being so arrogant. It feels humbling to be reminded how stupid one can be.
Re: Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
#67I feel overcome by the Dianne Kruger effect, to an extent I don't remember feeling any time recently. I'm becoming more and more interested in news about rocketry (due to SpaceX of course) but I'm still a full on space-pleb. I see something like this and my intuition screams "Woah! Of course! Why don't other rocket companies do this? What's wrong with them?!" But the rational part of my brain kicks in and slaps me do…
Re: Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
#68I feel overcome by the Dianne Kruger effect, to an extent I don't remember feeling any time recently. I'm becoming more and more interested in news about rocketry (due to SpaceX of course) but I'm still a full on space-pleb. I see something like this and my intuition screams "Woah! Of course! Why don't other rocket companies do this? What's wrong with them?!" But the rational part of my brain kicks in and slaps me do…
Re: Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
#69I feel overcome by the Dianne Kruger effect, to an extent I don't remember feeling any time recently. I'm becoming more and more interested in news about rocketry (due to SpaceX of course) but I'm still a full on space-pleb. I see something like this and my intuition screams "Woah! Of course! Why don't other rocket companies do this? What's wrong with them?!" But the rational part of my brain kicks in and slaps me do…
Dianne Kruger......?????
Re: Paul Allen's new rocket-launching plane
#70I feel overcome by the Dianne Kruger effect, to an extent I don't remember feeling any time recently. I'm becoming more and more interested in news about rocketry (due to SpaceX of course) but I'm still a full on space-pleb. I see something like this and my intuition screams "Woah! Of course! Why don't other rocket companies do this? What's wrong with them?!" But the rational part of my brain kicks in and slaps me do…
Dianne Kruger......?????