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The huge number of PCIe lanes is pretty exciting to me. For consumers, the limiting factor in PCs these days tends to be I/O. With this, you could have 4 PCIe M2 SSDs (that's a bit under 16Gbps bandwidth, assuming RAID0), and still have 44 lanes (the number in the top-end Intel CPU) to spare for GPUs and other peripherals.
Consumers tend to be limited by not having many PCIe SSDs in RAID0? Who are these people and what do they need galactic disk bandwidth for?
The huge number of PCIe lanes is pretty exciting to me. For consumers, the limiting factor in PCs these days tends to be I/O. With this, you could have 4 PCIe M2 SSDs (that's a bit under 16Gbps bandwidth, assuming RAID0), and still have 44 lanes (the number in the top-end Intel CPU) to spare for GPUs and other peripherals.
I don't fully understand. So 1 SSD need 1 lane. How many lanes need something like NVisia 1080Ti? What use of the remaining lanes? If I want to build something like 1 CPU/1 GPU/1 SSD configuration without additional peripherals, 62 lanes will be effectively wasted?
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Salient point: > all 64 lanes being enabled for all ThreadRipper SKUs. This will be broken up into 60+4: 60 lanes directly from the CPU for feeding PCIe and M.2 slots , and then another 4 lanes going to the chipset And > the 16 core processor will for most purposes be half of an Epyc processor Epyc (formerly Naples) is the server-grade arch with 8 memory channels, 32 cores and 128 PCIe lanes per socket.
I wonder if it's the same silicon as Epyc, just ThreadRipper gets the worse bins. Or maybe there's one less chip in the package?
The issue with binding is the larger and more complex your die the more failures you have. But breaking it down to 2 smaller dies that are combined they reduce this since they are already getting relly good yields out of the ryzen7 dies.
Epic is just 4 ryzen7 dies. So no this is not worse bins the 16core threadripper is 2 ryzen7 cores.
Competition is supposed to bring prices down, yet Intel released i9 processor for an insane prize (nearly 2000$). If AMD manages to ship similar performance (not necessarily higher) at a lower price... Sooner or later Intel will have to slash its prices. Looking forward to such times.
However, it is not jus the chip cost for these systems its also the mainboard if AMD can get the motherboards to be cheaper then that will make a big difference in the overall price.
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Enthusiasts tend to be gamers, and once you have a high end machine, most games tend to be limited on disk bandwidth, which affects load times. By consumers, I meant enthusiasts, since that's who the Threadripper (X399) and Intel's Extreme Edition (X299) platforms are aimed at.
Enthusiast here - can confirm, an array of nvme's makes a huge difference over single standard SSD. I set this up last year, check the benchmark results, it's night and day. http://imgur.com/a/N4FpD note: be sure to note the scaling at the bottom. 4-500MB/s old vs 3000+ MB/s new
I have only one of the 512 950 PROs in mine; they are awesome. :) http://i.imgur.com/sydrBvv.jpg . Pic taken before 2nd 980 GPU was put in; 6850k CPU.
Do the extra PCIe lanes help the GPUs for deep learning applications, or is the data typically pretty localized on the GPU board?
Think of training a NN to learn cats expressions and such Meme txt to go along with pictures of cats. So 1) you collect as many cat memes as you can (easy,... 40k memes of cats later) you start training... you need to normalise all the images you need to extract the meme txt and normalise this and you need to feed this through your tenso flow (or other system) to train it. This means pusshing your small data sample of 40k through the GPU and back out and possibly doing this a lot, there is no way they will all fit on your GPU and even if they do you need to get them on there in the firrst place.
I didn't see pricing info in the article. Has that been announced anywhere?
No, there was also no word on official/validated ECC support, only that Threadripper will launch this summer. But people hope for something between 999$ (since it is two Ryzen R7) and 1499$ for the 16 core CPU. 999$ would be awesome, but 1499$ sounds much more realistic, maybe even more, since it has a much larger socket, high end platform bonus etc.
I think given all the other Zen CPUs support it i think that is a given.
> 999$ (since it is two Ryzen R7) and 1499$
I think it will be more around the 999$ but the motherboard will be quite expensive, it is after all basically a duel CPU main board. Don't expect to pick up a board for under 500$
I was of the opinion that Intel will only face real competition when arm reaches parity with desktop class cpu. Nice to see AMD rise back up again. Hope Intel is not able to strong arm the oems like last time when AMD had design wins but Intel using anti competitive practice stalled its growth till it was able to catch-up and later go ahead.
I doubt we'll be seeing desktop ARM systems any time soon, especially high end workstation or enthusiast systems. The problem is that the ARM64 architecture is completely different from x86-64, which almost every desktop application is compiled for exclusively . Remember when Microsoft launched an ARM Surface? It had a special version of Windows, and almost nothing would run on it, as very few applications are compil…
Competition is supposed to bring prices down, yet Intel released i9 processor for an insane prize (nearly 2000$). If AMD manages to ship similar performance (not necessarily higher) at a lower price... Sooner or later Intel will have to slash its prices. Looking forward to such times.
