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Yandex has some of the best programmers in the world. This was a surprise to me, but in the past 5 years, I've been spending few months a year in Belarus with various engineering team and have been learning a lot about this region. Yandex has it's own school within the universities where they recruit the best minds early on and train them. I've heard from programmers who now work at FB. That they could pass google's…

What's the first most popular Taxi service? I haven't seen anyone using something different than Yandex.

Probably Gett.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gett

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Yandex taxi is really, really the best ride hailing service I have ever used. Wish them luck with self-driving cars, that would be a real challenge to start such a thing in Russia where drivers could be insanely careless about safety rules. For example a couple of times Russian taxi drivers asked me about WTF I buckle up for - is it a traumatic experience or something? :D

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Yandex has some of the best programmers in the world. This was a surprise to me, but in the past 5 years, I've been spending few months a year in Belarus with various engineering team and have been learning a lot about this region. Yandex has it's own school within the universities where they recruit the best minds early on and train them. I've heard from programmers who now work at FB. That they could pass google's…

What's the first most popular Taxi service? I haven't seen anyone using something different than Yandex.

Uber. You don't see it because most of the cars are unmarked.

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Yandex has some of the best programmers in the world. This was a surprise to me, but in the past 5 years, I've been spending few months a year in Belarus with various engineering team and have been learning a lot about this region. Yandex has it's own school within the universities where they recruit the best minds early on and train them. I've heard from programmers who now work at FB. That they could pass google's…

What's the first most popular Taxi service? I haven't seen anyone using something different than Yandex.

There is local service called RuТaxi that had 1 million rides daily and recently merged with least one other service. I suppose it's could be less popular in Moscow, but according to RBC it's larger than Yandex, Uber and Gett together. Source in Russian:

http://www.rbc.ru/technology_and_media/03/05/2017/5908a5de9a...

Paywalled English version:

http://www.unquote.com/cee/official-record/3004782/ufg-backs...

Re: Yandex’s on-demand taxi service debuts its self-driving car project

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Too bad most roads in Russia are a joke. This will never happen until Russian infrastructure improves; albeit this tech will stay in the huge provinces, Moscow & St. Petersburg.

This tech won't be used in small cities, it makes no sense, and big cities usually have good roads.

I live in Russia, and none of the roads outside of Moscow Ring Road have any markings at all. Yes, even big cities. At best the markings are painted in spring and disappear within a few months. Getting autonomous cars to work in these conditions is a huge challenge.

There's a famous saying that Russia has two problems: fools and roads, and it's just as true as when it was first coined.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the first most popular Taxi service? I haven't seen anyone using something different than Yandex.

Probably Gett. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gett

Yandex is the most popular taxi service in Russia https://www.ft.com/content/3fce1422-8fd0-11e6-a72e-b428cb934...

Re: Yandex’s on-demand taxi service debuts its self-driving car project

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Yandex has some of the best programmers in the world. This was a surprise to me, but in the past 5 years, I've been spending few months a year in Belarus with various engineering team and have been learning a lot about this region. Yandex has it's own school within the universities where they recruit the best minds early on and train them. I've heard from programmers who now work at FB. That they could pass google's…

Most of the Yandex developers are not that good or not loyal to a company. This classes in universities is a scam: instead of teaching people of real world things, they teach how to work with yandex tech stack.

Yandex lost almost all good developers and it is continue even further. Companies rent offices near yandex and find yandex developers in the restaurants around this buildings and convince them to leave. This is very easy to make a decision to leave yandex for them.

Once i came to talk to yandex and ask - why they don't make good experience for mobile apps in their search results? Why they are not indexing anything related to apps? Answer was simple - user then will use this apps instead of yandex.

And such toxic ideas are pretty common in the company.

Talking about maps - they pushed out of the market one of the most awesome maps application in the russia. It had crappy UI, but it always make correct estimates and was able to learn your behaviour (more than 5 years ago!). While their app doesn't work at all but it couldn't because they need real drivers to make sane navigation. Then they pushed it to a taxis with a very simple trick - for taxis they made routes LONGER than it should be. This got them big fleet of a taxis. (sorry no proofs, but they are on russian and you won't understand it anyway)

I hope they won't be that successful with their crappy product on the roads (they failed in almost everything in last years) and it will be much harder to compete for smaller teams as everyone will say "huh, but there are yandex guys already!".

This video is a too dumb for a year of work. Voyage are better already, but they are a small team unlike yandex. Geohotz was even faster.

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably Gett. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gett

Yandex is the most popular taxi service in Russia https://www.ft.com/content/3fce1422-8fd0-11e6-a72e-b428cb934...

They have most popular mobile app, but there are other taxi aggregators that still heavily used and competitive on price.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This tech won't be used in small cities, it makes no sense, and big cities usually have good roads.

1.1mil city, 6th in Russia (Samara), city center (I lived not far from the place) [1] I would argue that's not a "good road". However, GP is right that this is Moscow-only (maybe Saint-Petersburg, too) anyway. [1] https://a.d-cd.net/9661606s-960.jpg

Your link looks like Montreal to me https://www.google.ca/search?q=montreal+nid+de+poule&source=...

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Yandex has some of the best programmers in the world. This was a surprise to me, but in the past 5 years, I've been spending few months a year in Belarus with various engineering team and have been learning a lot about this region. Yandex has it's own school within the universities where they recruit the best minds early on and train them. I've heard from programmers who now work at FB. That they could pass google's…

What's the first most popular Taxi service? I haven't seen anyone using something different than Yandex.

The number 1 (is in process) is combination of two taxi aggregator services (RuTaxi + Fasten) banding together [0]

However, on self-driving car aspect, they would not have major technical debt compared to Yandex who has the best mapping data in Russia as well as the technical expertise.

[0] http://freenews-en.tk/2017/05/03/on-the-russian-market-of-ta...

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