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Ask HN: "Rockstar" job listings, yay or nay?

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Ask HN: "Rockstar" job listings, yay or nay?

#1
Is the use of the term "rockstar" by the "average/generic small business, corporate department or other software shop" in a job listing generally appropriate?

Do you find it to be an overused, dead, beaten horse of a meme? Do you find it's often overused and abused by non-technical hiring personnel? Do you find it's often used in lieu of appropriate title and/or compensation?

Do you find that it automatically prejudices you against a job listing?

Do you use the term rockstar in your own job listings? If so, where do you see your startup or shop on the scale of gee whiz hotness?

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#7

Anyone here have advice for those non-technical people who know they need a great programmer on their team?

Get someone -- a friend, a consultant -- with domain knowledge and preferably hiring experience to help write your listing, screen and interview your candidates. Make sure your qualifications are spot-on, well-targeted and appropriately descriptive.

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#8
post #5

If you are shooting for the kind of people who aspire to be rockstars (i.e. teenagers, mostly?), why not?

That's just it -- many of these listings are misnomers, targeting the naive and/or desperate. Why beat that horse any more than it already has been if it's not even an accurate use of the term?

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#9

Anyone here have advice for those non-technical people who know they need a great programmer on their team?

Start becoming technical yourself. You'll begin to learn what 'great programmer' means to you, and will have a much better sense of what type of technical talent you need. I think this is true even if you don't progress very far down the path towards becoming technical -- at least giving it a shot will count dramatically in your favor.

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#10
I think the alleged appeal of a job listed as being "for rockstars" is a certain amount of automatic respect once you get there. No one wants to go and be some day trader's or insurance adjuster's software lackey, so the idea of being the 'star' of the company is very appealing.

The problem is that this is inherently completely bullshit. Most companies are driven by sales of a service or non-software product, which makes you less important than the people directly responsible for making and selling the product. Even if you're a developer centric company, there are so many 'stars' that there are none, so it's more like being part of the choir that accompanies a rock band (every 10 years or so, when that's cool again). It's pretty nice, but you're certainly going to be held accountable for destroying your hotel room.

In my opinion, the only things that can be appealing about a job listing are technologies used (if they're telling the truth and not just spitting out buzzwords) and location.

On the flip side, if you want me to think your culture is cool and fun (as the 'rockstar' listing aims to do), you have to make sure that every person I meet from your company (or a vast majority) are cool and fun. Otherwise, no amount of buzzwords is going to attract me to your position.

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