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Re: How to Sleep

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Playing devil's advocate. A lack of a criminal record doesn't make you completely ordinary. The people you spend most of your time with and your therapist might have a different opinion of you than yourself.

I've never needed a therapist.

Sorry, I didn't mean you personally. Hypothetically speaking.

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I take melatonin for sleep only as necessary. I work a physically demanding job that requires approximately 50% computer time, so I find the mixed physical & mental effort of work tiring. What I found help immensely with regaining my focus and mental clarity after coming off caffeine, and before that methamphetamine 4 days out of 7 for nearly a year, is taking a multi B vitamin plus 1000mcg methylcobalamin (also know…

This is interesting. I'll chime in w/ one additional anecdata point - recently I've started supplementing Methyl Folate, B6 and B12 and saw significant increase in my energy levels; not in a jittery stimulant-like way, but more like w/ calmness and clarity. Have you experienced any negative side effects? Any advise on what to be cautious for?

Busy at work, hit me up on the email in my profile if you like.

You might be interest in Henry Osiecki's The Nutrient Bible, https://www.bookdepository.com/author/Henry-Osiecki

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Earplugs are my #1 life changer when it comes to sleep. I found these really soft ones that don't really get in the way when you're lying on one ear, they filter pretty much all of the sound and when I take them out the next day, my ears don't hurt. As it turns out my wife's breathing kept me kind of awake, and traffic sounds too. And now that I got used to it, thanks to the associativity of the brain, these days I f…

Could you tell me which earplugs you use and how you went about finding the right ones?

I'm using earplugs to sleep (and to focus) for more than 25 years now. For a long time I've used the Quies Natural Wax earplugs. Some years ago I switched to Oropax Classic earplugs. Both are made of natural wax. Wax earplugs are easy to fit in your ear and don't press against your inner ear like foam earplugs. Oropax earplugs are a bit bigger than Quies, so they don't just seal your inner ear canal but also a small part of your auricle, providing an extra buffer against sound while still being comfortable.

Re: How to Sleep

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Is nobody else concerned with the implications of what losing sleep does to the doctor going through residency? I've always thought that was insane. The author even admits to having observed the detrimental effects first-hand, yet never suggests that this practice should be abandoned - why is that!?

I as a patient have enough of a problem giving myself into the care of a doctor-in-training, why does s/he have to sleep-deprived on top of not being fully trained? Is this some sort of macho thing, or a "well, I went through this hazing, so you gotta do it, too" kind of thing?

Somebody please enlighten me as to what the point of this seemingly counter-productive practice is!

Re: How to Sleep

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I'm not sure what the long term effects of chronic melatonin supplementation are, but I'll find out eventually. I've been taking between 3-6mg of melatonin every night for the past few years (2011?) It's almost required. Without it my sleep cycle seems fine at first, but then gets out of whack as I can't seem to keep a circadian rhythm in line with the rest of society / the earth's rotation. On the opposite end of th…

I took melatonin for years (low dose 500mcg). In retrospect, after taking melatonin I don't recall any dreams. I'd only dream after not taking it for a day or two then taking a dose of melatonin.

About two weeks after stopping melatonin altogether, I now recall dreams every night. Stopped taking it due to insomnia getting worse and worse and figure I'd see what would happen without it. First week was rough, back to normal after that.

Meaningless anecdote about what is most likely placebo, but I found it a bit interesting. Forgot what it was like to dream every night. Not planning on taking it again.

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> It's the worst when I'm working on my computer, due to the blue light (I've started wearing yellow sunglasses to minimize the effect) If you are on Linux you should have a look at Redshift[0]. It allows you to adjust color temperature and brightness via command line. During daytime I put more blue and brightness into the screen, depending on the weather outside (5000K-6500K, 70%-100% brightness). I do this once whe…

If you are on mac, you should check 'f.lux'. It will adjust the colors of the screen automatically to minify the effects of blue light.

From macOS Sierra 10.12.4 onward, it's built in. Check Displays in System Preferences. Just tested now and it works with both internal display and external 4K screen.

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I'm assuming this is just temporary and eventually it's just smooth sailing and you get sleepy? What do you do with social events etc though. Nap? Just be tired? If they're 1-2x per week I guess I'd need a later fixed time.

> I'm assuming this is just temporary and eventually it's just smooth sailing and you get sleepy? No, you pick something you want permanent and just do it. Eating early after waking is helpful. I drink tea with L-Theanine before bed and reduce blue light. I take melatonin when I really need it, which is rare. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22214254 I'm not naturally an early riser. > What do you do with social e…

I guess I should have added the caveat that I want to be getting eight hours fairly consistently. How often would you say you have less.

When doing heavy weight training, it's more or less a necessity.

(No kid at this point, I'm sure that will change things once I do have once)

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For the fixed wakeup time: 1. What do you do if in a situation where you'll get a low amount of sleep. Nap mid day? 2. What about social stuff? I'd love to get up at 8 am most days, but then any social event in the evening throws that off. Naps might fix the latter, but I have trouble napping due to onset insomnia. Unless I'm extremelt fatigued.

Skip the naps; take the tiredness as punishment, go to bed at a fixed time. The trick is consistency, and a nap will interrupt said consistency. Usually you can function fine with a few hours less sleep, as long as it's not a regular event.

Using throwaway. I nap only [ old age, 'striesand effect' in play having vehicles near me who would protect me, in a scheme to publicize my misery as violence and atoning for and disenrolling from my 12 16 formative years which was devoid of adults so survivors '3 siblings' could gain Straight As with the minimum of parental bullying (2) maternal side opted out of and had to work away til 9 pm nightly as 2 siblings and therapy [birth surgery ] provided care for my unknown-to-me specific syndrome I found online and within a past colleague as a new specification to be textbook/pdf's for once for the thousands of families awaiting outside Their ICU for... digressing. .......... skip the naps >> nap as if your life depended upon it. .......... Tiredness is from Satanic poverty and/or will wishes from hell. Pray. Attend. ...... Consistency... Attend often, do not expectation to diswelcome or its underpinnings, IE takeout food without lesser fortunate visitations en route. ..... And a nap will interrupt said consistency. Beggars cannot be choosers. [ begging, but beside the point... worthy of an AskYN if I find the button. Founders? ...... Usually your can function fine... see /r/medicine for the travails daily and deaths and missteps and grim reap what one will sow that infringes unwittingly factory like upon the health, in the background, of almost all who read this very post. .... Regular event, vs regular event and In Your Contract, as in prn [ a pay methodology, one is on call, on another site a medical avocation complained 2, 2 1/2, 2 2 1/2, 4 without, y with /im doommed ..... [ to which i cannot respond without throwawy, with the persons around me playing up my afflictions to my dismay and the annoyance of persons around me much shorter than myself who try to sleep in this area. ..... But I digress. I can contribute, but as we see above, other things are on the front burner and three back burners are placed upon my porch so I cannot get a second puppy. He might leashed fall into the coals, as I trip in darkness for our mutual exercise gingerly stepping among them. On the brighter side, beats the lawn ornaments red not flamingo in the house to the east of me. /// downvote please, dwells on stuff 90 percent [ of readers ] to forget as soon as one [ two of those 100, thank you very much for paying rapt attention to the Gasp today.] reads it. Please.

Re: How to Sleep

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I guess it's once again time for my standard PSA response to this genre: various chronic medical conditions can interfere with sleep. If you consistently have trouble sleeping or sleeping well over an extended period of time, it very well could be something more than "poor sleep habits".

Obviously people should discuss any sleep issue with their Primary. However, it doesn't hurt to look at habits that may be affecting sleep.
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