Can this be used instead of Lua with Redis? Is there an example somewhere of that?
MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
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Re: MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
#22Adding superlatives to your stuff is, to me, just noise. e.g: "fast", "simple", "friendly", "lightweight". I would rather provide conclusive proof, like some side to side comparison of features to illustrate how idiomatic MoonScript is supposedly friendlier than Lua. Personally I think the changes are not necessarily in the right direction: For example, what if you have a typo in a variable identifier when assigning…
> I would rather provide conclusive proof, like some side to side comparison of features to illustrate how idiomatic MoonScript is supposedly friendlier than Lua. In the reference manual, it is quite literally a side by side comparison. MoonScript code is shown to the left, with Lua to the right. MoonScript provides shortened code with minimal overhead compared to how it would be implemented in Lua, and you can see h…
The unique color solution doesn't scale: Imagine that across multiple files. Imagine that in a large project. Imagine that with color blind people.
Then, when you remove parenthesis, it's the same as removing a lane delimiter. Matching parenthesis can already be confusing, now try matching invisible parenthesis. That creates more problems than it solves.
If this author wants to borrow aspects of Python, I suggest reading PEP 20: The Zen of Python. "Explicit is better than implicit".
Implicit parenthesis, implicit braces, implicit returns... the more implicit stuff the more work you need to do in your head, and the more you rely on humans. I thought programming was about giving more work to machines, not to humans.
Re: MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
#23Hey all, I made MoonScript about 6 years ago. I used it to build a ton of opensource stuff in addition to the company I founded. I use it every day and I'm very happy with how it's turned out. I regret not updating the language more frequently, but I've been busy building a bunch of stuff in it. The biggest open source project is a web framework for Open Resty: https://github.com/leafo/lapis It's used for the followi…
Are you aware that TIC-80 supports moonscript? It's one of the better PICO-8 "clones" out there.
https://github.com/nesbox/tic.computer/wiki#cartridge-metada...
Re: MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
#24Hey all, I made MoonScript about 6 years ago. I used it to build a ton of opensource stuff in addition to the company I founded. I use it every day and I'm very happy with how it's turned out. I regret not updating the language more frequently, but I've been busy building a bunch of stuff in it. The biggest open source project is a web framework for Open Resty: https://github.com/leafo/lapis It's used for the followi…
What's it like being a resident bad@$$?
In all seriousness, what's it like running a company using a language you built or is there only a couple of other employees? Also, I guess you're not worrying about bitrot as you can maintain it yourself and it doesn't need anything other than lua to run correct? Also, why did you originally pick lua. I'm gonna stop and read the articles now :).
Re: MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I would rather provide conclusive proof, like some side to side comparison of features to illustrate how idiomatic MoonScript is supposedly friendlier than Lua. In the reference manual, it is quite literally a side by side comparison. MoonScript code is shown to the left, with Lua to the right. MoonScript provides shortened code with minimal overhead compared to how it would be implemented in Lua, and you can see h…
The unique color solution doesn't scale: Imagine that across multiple files. Imagine that in a large project. Imagine that with color blind people. Then, when you remove parenthesis, it's the same as removing a lane delimiter. Matching parenthesis can already be confusing, now try matching invisible parenthesis. That creates more problems than it solves. If this author wants to borrow aspects of Python, I suggest rea…
> Then, when you remove parenthesis, it's the same as removing a lane delimiter.
As someone that vastly prefers parenthesis, no, it's not. The block is just bounded by syntactic structure, not by delimiter. It's like replacing lane delimiters with rippled road texture. The delimiter is different and in my opinion inferior, but it's not gone, it's just replaced by some other indicator.
Re: MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
#26Adding superlatives to your stuff is, to me, just noise. e.g: "fast", "simple", "friendly", "lightweight". I would rather provide conclusive proof, like some side to side comparison of features to illustrate how idiomatic MoonScript is supposedly friendlier than Lua. Personally I think the changes are not necessarily in the right direction: For example, what if you have a typo in a variable identifier when assigning…
How are they just noise? If somebody says that something is "fast", it's because it's purpose is to be fast and nothing else. If something says it's lightweight it means it's aim is a minimal size. They are not noise, they are mission statements.
Saying "our goal is to be x" is different than "we are x".
One is an aspiration, the other one is a confident claim.
Re: MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
The unique color solution doesn't scale: Imagine that across multiple files. Imagine that in a large project. Imagine that with color blind people. Then, when you remove parenthesis, it's the same as removing a lane delimiter. Matching parenthesis can already be confusing, now try matching invisible parenthesis. That creates more problems than it solves. If this author wants to borrow aspects of Python, I suggest rea…
> Then, when you remove parenthesis, it's the same as removing a lane delimiter. As someone that vastly prefers parenthesis, no, it's not. The block is just bounded by syntactic structure, not by delimiter. It's like replacing lane delimiters with rippled road texture. The delimiter is different and in my opinion inferior, but it's not gone, it's just replaced by some other indicator.
Except that that whitespace is not used only for that purpose, it could mean also something else, right? We trade an unambiguous set of characters --the parentheses-- by whitespace, and make it context sensitive. How is that now more readable? As someone who has had to match these whitespace based parenthesis I can tell you it's not more readable.
It's more like someone determined that parenthesis were not visually palatable and decided to remove them. Like "hey, that fire extinguisher doesn't look very elegant, let's remove it, or wrap it in wallpaper so nobody can see it".
Re: MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
#28Nice!
We need more programming languages with sane syntax.
Re: MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
#29Lapis + MoonScript + OpenResty looks like a lot of fun, so I was just starting to get a local environment running for it and immediately ran into the Lua 5.1 and 5.2+ divergence. For someone who has just been a casual observer of the Lua ecosystem over the years, can someone talk about the community's feelings towards that divergence? The OpenResty docs basically state it's not worth the effort to support anything but Lua 5.1, which at this point is 5 years old and no longer updated.
From someone on the outside that makes me hesitant to spend much effort investing in the ecosystem. Are the libraries fragmented across different versions too? Are there really no plans for an upgrade path, or does everyone just expect to use 5.1 forever?
Re: MoonScript, a programmer friendly language that compiles to Lua
#30Lapis + MoonScript + OpenResty looks like a lot of fun, so I was just starting to get a local environment running for it and immediately ran into the Lua 5.1 and 5.2+ divergence. For someone who has just been a casual observer of the Lua ecosystem over the years, can someone talk about the community's feelings towards that divergence? The OpenResty docs basically state it's not worth the effort to support anything bu…
I believe this is because LuaJIT is 5.1-only.