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> I really​ hope they get this done quickly You don't have to wait for them to enable it for everyone. Enable it yourself by setting browser.tabs.remote.autostart to true in about:config (on ff48-53 this'll use one one process for ui and one for all tabs, I believe on 54+ it'll use more). (As long as you don't have any addons that don't support it, anyway -- after enabling it, check in about:support under "Multiproce…

browser.tabs.remote.autostart should already be default-enabled, unless your extensions aren't compatible with it. It'll tell you "disabled by add-ons" in about:support, if that's the case. And you can enable multiple content processes prior to Firefox 54 by setting dom.ipc.processCount to a number higher than 1. This is the maximum number of content processes that it'll use, as you open more tabs. So, if your number…

I didn't know about about:support, nice. It indeed says "disabled by addons". Other than a binary search, how do I figure out which one(s)?

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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I trusted them until they de facto fired a prominent employee for his political opinions - opinions shared by a large portion of the population. If they can do that to an employee, what can't they do to you , an anonymous user? That said, I stick with Firefox for private use. But the trust is gone.

so because they didn't want an alt-right bigot as their ceo it somehow means they're going to spy on users?

"alt-right bigot"

See, that's why Eich's "resignation" is a massive red flag for me. Plenty of perfectly-decent people have misinformed political opinions. Any reasonable person could separate those personal beliefs from professional merits.

Instead, though, we have lots of unreasonable people who look at a handful of political beliefs (including past ones that may or may not still be in effect) as some sign that a person is irredeemably and permanently "evil".

I have many friends, family members, and coworkers who have political viewpoints that I find to be reprehensible. Some are diehard "Make America Great Again (but only for white people)" Republicans. Some are diehard "If you're not with Hillary and every last one of her political stances, you're a deplorable and evil person" Democrats. I'm able to maintain civil and productive relationships with these people because I'm able to see past political differences and recognize these people as human beings with perfectly valid (albeit horribly misinformed) opinions.

If Eich's resignation (forced or not) has no effect on Firefox users or the persecution thereof, then neither would Eich's continued tenure as CEO affect users. Same goes for Mozilla staff; unless there's actual evidence that Eich would have discriminated against non-heterosexual staff in a professional setting, the idea that Eich was somehow unfit to lead the project which he cofounded was a premature and unfounded idea at the very least.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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I use Firefox myself. It's really fast, until you get into Google websites, like YouTube - those websites work really slow (well, not that slow, just noticeably slower), while there are no issues in Google Chrome - as if that was intentional, even (like, Google detecting Firefox, and providing it slower code).

If this turned out to be true, is there an antitrust case there?

There might be, but I doubt it's on purpose. At best it'd be gross negligence or something, but I'm not sure holding a monopoly by not actively supporting the opposition (i.e. negligence) is punishable.

I experience the same issue and it's frustrating. Not that I use a lot of Google services, but when I do... yeah the effect is noticeable. So much as I like to point a finger, I expect it's just due to them not putting in as much time to make their stuff run perfect in anything other than Chrome.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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I periodically get asked by my clients about which browser is "best."

I respond that I use FireFox because of: Mozilla's mission/actions versus Google's mission/actions, and NoScript protection on FireFox to stop undesired behavior of websites I do not trust/have not vetted.

Personally, I use Chromium for the few websites where NoScript is over-aggressive to their functionality, and that I have already vetted as being acceptable to share all with (privacy, history, etc.).

And to make sure a problem I experience is not a FireFox-only problem :)

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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...meanwhile we still can't use "pinch to zoom" (trackpad) in Firefox, which is available in Safari and Chrome for like 5 years now. Such a basic feature! It's the main reason i personally stopped using Firefox.

Curious: do you use pinching with two hands or with one?

I hate the pinch to zoom on any platform: on mobile it always rotates the view when I want north to be up (so I use the +/- buttons); and on a touchpad with one hand... I mean, my thumb is opposable but my other fingers are not made to move more in that direction. I'd have to get my other hand away from the keyboard (or from under my head, depending on what I'm doing). I'm curious how others do this.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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Sorry, but until Firefox runs JavaScript code at least on par with Safari, it isn't a good option for some of us.

I am the author of a reasonably large web app (https://partsbox.io/), and in real-life performance on a Mac, Chrome is #1, Safari follows right behind it, and Firefox lags far behind. So, Firefox isn't "faster" and doesn't "lag less", quite the opposite.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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I trusted them until they de facto fired a prominent employee for his political opinions - opinions shared by a large portion of the population. If they can do that to an employee, what can't they do to you , an anonymous user? That said, I stick with Firefox for private use. But the trust is gone.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14439446 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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...meanwhile we still can't use "pinch to zoom" (trackpad) in Firefox, which is available in Safari and Chrome for like 5 years now. Such a basic feature! It's the main reason i personally stopped using Firefox.

Curious: do you use pinching with two hands or with one? I hate the pinch to zoom on any platform: on mobile it always rotates the view when I want north to be up (so I use the +/- buttons); and on a touchpad with one hand... I mean, my thumb is opposable but my other fingers are not made to move more in that direction. I'd have to get my other hand away from the keyboard (or from under my head, depending on what I'm…

On the touchpad i always use one hand, my right hand: Index+Ring finger, I just move them sideways.

actually i never thought about that. I just noticed that the person in the example video http://i.imgur.com/AvLLbuy.gif seems to use Thumb+Index finger.

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