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Ask HN: Ex-Founder. Should I take lowball buyout offer?

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Re: Ask HN: Ex-Founder. Should I take lowball buyout offer?

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Sell at the valuation, e.g. 5% of $XX,000,000. Maybe offer them a 20% discount on the shares if you really want to sell. Otherwise don't sell. Not selling is your leverage, as they clearly want you to sell.

It doesn't sound to me like they clearly want the OP to sell. It actually sounds like the opposite. The OP wants to get out, and they responded with a lowball offer which, if anything, would motivate the OP not to sell.

Re: Ask HN: Ex-Founder. Should I take lowball buyout offer?

#13
I would work out the difference between the salary at say Google vs what you took during your tenure at the startup then double it because of lack of upside.

Aside: If the co-founder is an HN reader, then they probably know the throwaway account is you. That is going to skew this negotiation.

Re: Ask HN: Ex-Founder. Should I take lowball buyout offer?

#16

Sell at the valuation, e.g. 5% of $XX,000,000. Maybe offer them a 20% discount on the shares if you really want to sell. Otherwise don't sell. Not selling is your leverage, as they clearly want you to sell.

Note that he probably owns common shares, and the investors are buying preferred shares. Also, he's going to be diluted below 5% in the post-money era.

Re: Ask HN: Ex-Founder. Should I take lowball buyout offer?

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Ask for more.

CEO refuses. How do I apply leverage?

You could say that if the CEO doesn't improve the offer, you're going to write directly to the board / new investors.

I'm not saying you should do this. Nor am I suggesting it's a good tactic. But it may provide leverage if you need some.

Re: Ask HN: Ex-Founder. Should I take lowball buyout offer?

#18
If that is less than 1/3rd what your shares would be worth if you sold them as part of the funding round you're not getting fair value. You have to decide whether you want fair value or not, but ~1/3rd the value of the shares in this funding round (assuming those investors got preferred shares, etc) is the low end.

Investors in the round would probably buy your shares for 1/3rd - 2/3rds of their value and you should consider asking if that's an option and then negotiate from there. The only reason to let the company buyout your shares for a lowball offer is if you left the company after a short period of time without proper vesting and you want to do the right thing for the company's sake. Doesn't sound like that's the case.

Re: Ask HN: Ex-Founder. Should I take lowball buyout offer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

CEO refuses. How do I apply leverage?

You could say that if the CEO doesn't improve the offer, you're going to write directly to the board / new investors. I'm not saying you should do this. Nor am I suggesting it's a good tactic. But it may provide leverage if you need some.

No reason to do this - you have the shares and the CEO wants to buy you out. Remember - the CEO wants to buy you out for a reason, and I guarantee you the investors want you bought out. Don't underestimate how much leverage "them wanting you bought out" is. It may even be a stipulation of the funding round.

Re: Ask HN: Ex-Founder. Should I take lowball buyout offer?

#20

Sell at the valuation, e.g. 5% of $XX,000,000. Maybe offer them a 20% discount on the shares if you really want to sell. Otherwise don't sell. Not selling is your leverage, as they clearly want you to sell.

Note that he probably owns common shares, and the investors are buying preferred shares. Also, he's going to be diluted below 5% in the post-money era.

Which is irrelevant is they actually want to acquire his stake. That said, I would offer them a 20% discount on his post money share. Who ultimately acquires the shares doesn't matter either, could be the company (they would destroy the shares) or the new investors (the shares could be modified to become preferred shares upon acquisition)
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