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Re: Browse Against the Machine

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I think teaching people that Google is dangerous and everyone using Chrome makes it worse is important, and probably a good strategy for Firefox.

You can reasonably feel like Chrome is better than Firefox but I don't think it's so much better that it is worth the trade-off.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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Firefox on Linux performs really well for me, even with 50-100 tabs open. However I have your same problem with not knowing how to preserve the network history between refreshes, that would be useful.

Do you use Firefox from Mozilla, or do you use one of the forks?

FF with lots of tabs on OS X feels much more sluggish than FF with lots of tabs on Linux, on the very same hardware (MBP 2015). Different approaches to the UI toolkits might be showing.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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Why did I move from Netscape to IE? Speed. Why did I move from IE to Firefox? Speed. Why did I move from Firefox to Chrome? Speed. Why did I move from Chrome to Firefox? Negative feelings about Google. So for myself the only things that work, hand on heart, are Speed or Repulsion. You can't really sell repulsion. Therefore, I think their only hope is Speed. Admittedly I may be a crap example.

I think features play can play a role. I switched to DuckDuckGo a long time ago more because of their extra features than because of Google. The old Opera was also moderately successful because of their proxy-like feature (it was pre-rendering webpages and compressing the result) that was very appreciated by mobile users. Before their downfall they also integrated peer-to-peer file sharing and chat.

I believe that maybe Firefox has a card to play with decentralization. Think something like IPFS or MediaGoblin easy-to-use integration.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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The messaging implies a strong stance, which I don't really see.

A strong stance would include ad and tracking blocking, on...by default.

This is more like "Optionally Browse Against the Machine After Figuring out How".

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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Ran a comparison just for fun. Ubuntu 16.04, on netflix chrome jumps between ~15%-40% CPU. Firefox was a solid 40%-55%. And i noticed UI lags when loading netflix pages, took me 3 minutes to go back to chrome.

ran same comparison on both my macbook air and windows 10 desktop and got the opposite results. just want to point out that what happens on one piece of hardware isn't indicative of everyone's experience.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

#47

I think teaching people that Google is dangerous and everyone using Chrome makes it worse is important, and probably a good strategy for Firefox. You can reasonably feel like Chrome is better than Firefox but I don't think it's so much better that it is worth the trade-off.

Actually unless it's about playing videos, audio or debuging my angular app Firefox feels snappier and better to use (and I am back on Firefox for the first time after Pocket happened). But then again those three aspects of using a browser are very big ones.

But the reason I came to Firefox was because I didn't want Chrome to be a clear monopoly and see a time when it was pretty much too late for any competition.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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I trusted them until they de facto fired a prominent employee for his political opinions - opinions shared by a large portion of the population. If they can do that to an employee, what can't they do to you , an anonymous user? That said, I stick with Firefox for private use. But the trust is gone.

so because they didn't want an alt-right bigot as their ceo it somehow means they're going to spy on users?

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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I think teaching people that Google is dangerous and everyone using Chrome makes it worse is important, and probably a good strategy for Firefox. You can reasonably feel like Chrome is better than Firefox but I don't think it's so much better that it is worth the trade-off.

It feels weird using Google now and knowing that I'm just training their AI. Frankly, I don't particularly want that to move any faster than it already is. One less user won't make that much difference, no, but I do think that supporting Firefox makes a great antithesis to Google's forces.

Re: Browse Against the Machine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use Firefox from Mozilla, or do you use one of the forks?

FF with lots of tabs on OS X feels much more sluggish than FF with lots of tabs on Linux, on the very same hardware (MBP 2015). Different approaches to the UI toolkits might be showing.

not sure what it is but firefox seems to run perfectly on my macbook air but my friend with the MBP 15 always complains about it
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