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Re: How to Sleep

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Post by Loomie »

soperj wrote: post #81
Shank wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, there is a big difference between peeing on someone and trying to choke out one of your relatives. My family is full of mental health disorders and I've experienced the damage they cause first hand. For me, it was much more of a "so this is the complete extreme" experience -- it was a good example of "almost entirely far gone."

I have no mental health disorders though. I just had some completely off the handle reactions to people bullying me, or picking on me in any way. I was one of the smallest people in my class, and it never turned out well for the other person. I would blackout with rage. I've never remembered what happened in a fight, but can still remember every detail leading up to it.

Obviously I'm not in your head and I could be wrong, but I think what sets you apart from the kids described in the article is that you acted on emotions. The kids described had none. They knew what they were doing, they did not black out in rage. The harm they did was calculated.

It seems to me that you had bursts of violence because you felt hurt yourself and needed to make things 'right', not just because you found joy in harming others.

Re: How to Sleep

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Post by lflux »

ashark wrote: post #25

1) no glowing screens at all after the sun goes down. 2) no glowing screens at all after the sun goes down. 3) no glowing screens at all after the sun goes down. 4) very low candle-temperature lighting only after dark. Especially try to keep it out of your direct line of sight. It'll work, but 1-3 are hard .

This would be impossible to follow at higher latitudes - I used to live in Stockholm where from october to mid-january sundown is 4pm

Re: How to Sleep

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Post by soperj »

Loomie wrote: post #91
soperj wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no mental health disorders though. I just had some completely off the handle reactions to people bullying me, or picking on me in any way. I was one of the smallest people in my class, and it never turned out well for the other person. I would blackout with rage. I've never remembered what happened in a fight, but can still remember every detail leading up to it.

Obviously I'm not in your head and I could be wrong, but I think what sets you apart from the kids described in the article is that you acted on emotions. The kids described had none. They knew what they were doing, they did not black out in rage. The harm they did was calculated. It seems to me that you had bursts of violence because you felt hurt yourself and needed to make things 'right', not just because you foun…

I guess, but I think when people read the article, the part that's scary is the violence. The lack of empathy is disturbing (i don't lack empathy). I guess I wonder how many people actually have one without the other, either the extreme violence or the lack of empathy without it, and whether it's the combination of the two?

I also have a really low resting heart rate, around 40 beats per minute.

Re: How to Sleep

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Post by ericdykstra »

No small art is it to sleep: it is necessary for that purpose to keep awake all day.

Ten times a day must thou overcome thyself: that causeth wholesome weariness, and is poppy to the soul.

Ten times must thou reconcile again with thyself; for overcoming is bitterness, and badly sleep the unreconciled.

Ten truths must thou find during the day; otherwise wilt thou seek truth during the night, and thy soul will have been hungry.

Ten times must thou laugh during the day, and be cheerful; otherwise thy stomach, the father of affliction, will disturb thee in the night.

When night cometh, then take I good care not to summon sleep. It disliketh to be summoned—sleep, the lord of the virtues!

But I think of what I have done and thought during the day. Thus ruminating, patient as a cow, I ask myself: What were thy ten overcomings?

And what were the ten reconciliations, and the ten truths, and the ten laughters with which my heart enjoyed itself? Thus pondering, and cradled by forty thoughts, it overtaketh me all at once—sleep, the unsummoned, the lord of the virtues.

http://4umi.com/nietzsche/zarathustra/2

Re: How to Sleep

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Post by thirdsun »

teolandon wrote: post #59

My biggest struggle with sleep is that I'm always excited to do stuff, and always feel like I'm not done with my day. Exceptions are when something happens and I end up feeling very depressed during the day, and simply want to shut down and do nothing. Usually, I get so infatuated with a script I'm writing, a new program I discovered, a bug that I need to resolve, a book that I'm reading, some concept that I'm thinki…

I know what you mean - Luckily I usually feel this kind of energy and urge to do stuff in the morning while preferring to wind down in the evening (which, admittedly, may still involve screens).

Maybe you could try to shift your tasks to fit a similar schedule. Use the evenings for thinking, reflecting, planning and theoretic concepts, preferably with some music, while executing those thoughts and ideas in the morning.

Re: How to Sleep

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Post by tomcam »

teolandon wrote: post #55
mythrwy wrote: post #46

I've had great luck with these videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7OGw1QS9JI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTAwdgf1nZE I went through a phase a few years ago where I'd fall asleep only to wake up a short time later with mind racing, then be up half the night and tired the next day. This went on for some months and was very annoying. These videos cured that phase right away. I don't listen to them much anymore…

Is it weird that these videos never work for me? I haven't tried these particular ones, but I've had tons of troubles sleeping through the years, and hypnosis audios never works. It actually gets me frustrated and keeps me up longer.

No it's not. Me too

Re: How to Sleep

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Post by icantdrive55 »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #38
RandomInteger4 wrote: post #15

I'm not sure what the long term effects of chronic melatonin supplementation are, but I'll find out eventually. I've been taking between 3-6mg of melatonin every night for the past few years (2011?) It's almost required. Without it my sleep cycle seems fine at first, but then gets out of whack as I can't seem to keep a circadian rhythm in line with the rest of society / the earth's rotation. On the opposite end of th…

I take melatonin for sleep only as necessary. I work a physically demanding job that requires approximately 50% computer time, so I find the mixed physical & mental effort of work tiring. What I found help immensely with regaining my focus and mental clarity after coming off caffeine, and before that methamphetamine 4 days out of 7 for nearly a year, is taking a multi B vitamin plus 1000mcg methylcobalamin (also know…

For what it's worth, I spent a year in Chiropractic School.

It's all a scam. And the Osteopaths--they just couldn't get into the better medical schools. There's only been a few verifified subluxations in the history of medicine, and they were cause by blunt force trama.

I'll never forget this one teacher. Oh she loved being called Doctor. The last thing I recall her saying is, "We have over 15 upper cervical techniques, and they--all--work--equally well!" I just cringed. That was it. I knew it was all Placebo.

I went to my grandmothers for Christmas Eve dinner. I got home. I looked in the mirror, and had a huge panic attack. I remember thinking, I just can't be a phoney. I had some other personal issues, but the hypocracy of Chiro school was the tipping point. I never quite recovered either. I had the panic attack. Went to bed, thinking I will be better in the morning. I slept eight hours. Walked out of my room, and boom--the world seemed slightly different, and I was a crying, nervous wreck. I was an absolute mess for years. Still kinda am? I went from an A student, working 30 hours a week to a guy who was afraid of most things.

I really thought I could be a hypocrite, and be a happy Chiropractor. I just didn't have it in me though. I got a letter from the dean congratulating me on my grades my last semester. I returned the letter, with a note stating I'm dropping out.

Crazy? Am I crazy? Or, do we live in a unethical crazy world! I don't know anymore?

Re: How to Sleep

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Post by misev »

Antrikshy wrote: post #90
ashark wrote: post #25

1) no glowing screens at all after the sun goes down. 2) no glowing screens at all after the sun goes down. 3) no glowing screens at all after the sun goes down. 4) very low candle-temperature lighting only after dark. Especially try to keep it out of your direct line of sight. It'll work, but 1-3 are hard .

I mean, what am I supposed to do in my leisure time if I can't look at glowing screens? Just sit around and pretend I'm in the 90s?

The 90s? That can't be the dark ages already :) How about listening the radio, podcast, music? I wonder what the effects of audio are on sleep.

Re: How to Sleep

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Post by Nav_Panel »

rrggrr wrote: post #8

1. Room temperature should be between 60 - 67 degrees F. 2. No electronics, games, and minimal to no blue light 30min to 1hour before sleep. 3. Do not exercise less than 3 hours before sleep. Exception: sex. 4. Coffee and other stimulants before 12pm, not after. 5. Avoid naps longer than 15 minutes day of. 6. Stretch before going to sleep, particularly if you experience minor restless legs or periodic leg movements.…

3 seems controversial. Vigorous exercise before bed seems OK based on what I've been seeing:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20673290

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/04/sleep-...

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