British Airways: All flights cancelled amid IT crash

Post by jdavis703 » Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:27 PM UTC

rashkov wrote: post #70

mancerayder wrote: post #63

In the tech-related (but now fully mainstream, unlike a few years ago) news these days, there are a number of recurring themes. 1. Massive security breaches affecting major corporations, governments, and so on. 2. Massive IT outages, affecting corporations, governments and so forth. It doesn't take a lot of incidents to mark them as 'massive' since things are strongly centralized in this world. Meanwhile, in the last…

It seems that companies would rather buy "insurance" rather than spend money on actual security. They have accepted that they will eventually be hacked or have a really expensive outage, so now they want a cushion of money to pay for any penalties and lawsuits. I get the impression that for the most part, no one really believes in security, and doesn't understand that it's a process and not a product. They already tr…

Post by raverbashing » Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:33 PM UTC

Zigurd wrote: post #78

dchichkov wrote: post #74

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Yes, it's a cyclic trend in IT: Step 0. Well functioning and balanced company. Step 1. Why these engineers are so expensive? We can hire 'ten for one' in 'country A'. Step 2. Cut local IT budget twice, put goals to have *zero* local IT budget in 2 years. Outsource everything to 'country A'. Step 3. People are fired, everything is outsourced, operational knowledge accumulated over the last few years is lost. Step 4. W…

You cat bet it is: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/airplane-maintenance-... FTA: >The airplanes that U.S. carriers send to Aeroman undergo what’s known in the industry as “heavy maintenance,” which often involves a complete teardown of the aircraft. Every plate and panel on the wings, tail, flaps, and rudder are unscrewed, and all the parts within—cables, brackets, bearings, and bolts—are removed for inspectio…

Post by konceptz » Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:37 PM UTC

jdavis703 wrote: post #81

rashkov wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems that companies would rather buy "insurance" rather than spend money on actual security. They have accepted that they will eventually be hacked or have a really expensive outage, so now they want a cushion of money to pay for any penalties and lawsuits. I get the impression that for the most part, no one really believes in security, and doesn't understand that it's a process and not a product. They already tr…

Why aren't there Security Process Engineers (SPE)? I was recently waiting on a massively delayed flight and observed three instances where employees left the computer behind the check in desks unlocked. I'm sure these computers checked off all the requirements for having a firewall turned on, anti-malware software, auto-updates turned on, etc. But the front door was left wide open because the employees were forced to…

Post by chinhodado » Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:40 PM UTC

typednothing wrote: post #80

dchichkov wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's a cyclic trend in IT: Step 0. Well functioning and balanced company. Step 1. Why these engineers are so expensive? We can hire 'ten for one' in 'country A'. Step 2. Cut local IT budget twice, put goals to have *zero* local IT budget in 2 years. Outsource everything to 'country A'. Step 3. People are fired, everything is outsourced, operational knowledge accumulated over the last few years is lost. Step 4. W…

> We can hire 'ten for one' in a country A. Rather: 'two for one'.

Post by riffic » Sat, May 27, 2017, 7:41 PM UTC

al452 wrote: post #82

riffic wrote: post #65

Hopefully, this will be a wake-up call to the industry - government regulation in IT is needed.

The UK government (perhaps the relevant one in this case) does not have a stellar track record of figuring out how to make big IT systems and projects successful. This knee-jerk appeal to regulation is unconvincing to say the least.