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The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak

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Re: The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak

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To me, Tyler Droll and Brooks Buffington sound like joke parody names for clueless rich overprivileged frat boy brogrammers, from an episode of Silicon Valley or The Simpsons.

That was my impression when I saw them speak at the Atlanta Tech Village.....granted that place tends to attract those types but....

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post #33
post #16

Honestly, I don't get all the complaining from harassment. We live in a digital age where we can control a large amount of our information stream. If we don't like something, we just turn off the stream. It's like left-wing advocates and Fox. They don't like it, so they don't watch it. If you don't like what people are posting on some service, remove the service, inform people you know that you don't care about what'…

> But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm missing something Post your name and address here, and give me 72 hours to show you what the harassment being complained about is like.

You're threatening to harass someone, to make a point?

And you're doing it, apparently using your real name?

That strikes me as crazy. Just sayin'.

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#53
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe in addition to having your users indemnify you for their UGC in the TOS, you could have users agree to pay you 25k every time they posted something like a bomb threat, rape threat, drug deal, etc.

That would be wholly unenforceable.

Just make them pay in advance. Apple's in-app-purchase system is pretty airtight.

Re: The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak

#54

To me, Tyler Droll and Brooks Buffington sound like joke parody names for clueless rich overprivileged frat boy brogrammers, from an episode of Silicon Valley or The Simpsons.

That was my impression when I saw them speak at the Atlanta Tech Village.....granted that place tends to attract those types but....

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#55
post #40

This article seems to miss the point of why Yik Yak really failed. It didn't fail because of bullying, or bad publicity - That doesn't discourage users from using the app unless they're the ones targeted. The app failed because of the ham fisted attempts to control the userbase and remove a problem that did not affect the vast, vast majority of the userbase by introducing the "Handles" feature, and then later making…

A major issue I had with yik yak was that it really didn't work if you were going to a commuter school or lived in the suburbs then the local list was dead.

It should have a way to set your location by physically being there X hours a week. Then you could take part in a community even if you sleep somewhere else, but you'd still need to show up to be "in".

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#56
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Wonder if it is possible to run an app like this at cost somehow. Given that it's just an API serving short text snippets, the hosting costs shouldn't be more than a few cents per user per year. Let's say you're serving one university with 50,000 students, and your hosting costs are $3,000 per year... Just send out an update email once a quarter with a few ads at the end and you've more than covered your expenses.

You also need to pay for staff to handle customer and legal complaints. That ain't cheap.

Customer complaints can get a canned response. Legal requests are paid, right?

Re: The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A major issue I had with yik yak was that it really didn't work if you were going to a commuter school or lived in the suburbs then the local list was dead.

It should have a way to set your location by physically being there X hours a week. Then you could take part in a community even if you sleep somewhere else, but you'd still need to show up to be "in".

Or have a total population metric, some communities are more spread out. So the heard would be people within x radius or increase radius x until population is met.

Re: The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak

#58
post #16

Honestly, I don't get all the complaining from harassment. We live in a digital age where we can control a large amount of our information stream. If we don't like something, we just turn off the stream. It's like left-wing advocates and Fox. They don't like it, so they don't watch it. If you don't like what people are posting on some service, remove the service, inform people you know that you don't care about what'…

Why bend over backwards and cut yourself off from your college community just to cater to jerks? Do you think the mods of HN are "hyper-sensitive pricks" for trying to preserve the quality of discourse here?

People seem to live under this illusion that the internet is somehow completely removed from real life, that the bigotry and hate doesn't count if it's over a computer. "Just close your eyes and pretend it isn't happening. So what if people are calling your house, your employer, your family; stalking you everywhere you go; threatening to kill you on an hourly basis; calling in a SWAT raid. Just ignore it!"

On the contrary, I think it's long past time our society grew up and stopped trying to make excuses for outrageously bad behavior. These aren't harmless pranks. They're part of a culture that normalizes hate to the point that it emboldens people to commit violence, on college campuses and elsewhere.

https://wamu.org/story/17/05/24/wake-college-park-murder-cam...

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>two feminist groups and several former students filed a federal complaint accusing the University of Mary Washington...of failing to protect the female plaintiffs from cyber harassment...

I am confused as to why anyone thinks its the University's duty to protect their students from "cyber harassment." I mean, I am aware of Title IX and all, I am just shocked at the amount of control, influence, and involvement into their students' lives universities are expected to have.

If a student is driving to class and hits a bird (causing them gross emotional trauma) did the university fail to protect them from rouge avians?

Re: The Rise and Fall of Yik Yak

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Surprised it hasn't been replaced by someone outside the US who wouldn't be pressured to make it a safe space. Not discounting the potential issues...just surprised it hasn't happened.

There is Jodel [0] which is quite popular among students in Germany. It has strict guidelines [1] which try exactly this. [0] https://jodel-app.com/ [1] https://jodel-app.com/guidelines.html

It's popular in Sweden as well.
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