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Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

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Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

#81

In computer security, every time machines become fast enough to breach the limits of an algorithm we invent something new so that “hard” problems remain “hard” and therefore encryption is still secure. There has been no corresponding increase in the difficulty of invading privacy. 30 years ago, even though you probably “could” observe somebody for a long time and eventually connect some dots about them, it would not…

How many times has your privacy been invaded?

Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

#82
post #4

The bigger problem for me is how facebook tracks and identifies even people who do not have a facebook account. They simply infer such a person exists from photograps, contacts and other one sided activity and can start to track that person, tie all this information together and then target them with ads even though they never signed up for Facebook. Such shadow profiles are a much larger problem to me than people wh…

Do European Union users have a recourse against this? Or do they have to create an account, then request a deletion?

They can use the Russian or Chinese social networks.

Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

#83

In computer security, every time machines become fast enough to breach the limits of an algorithm we invent something new so that “hard” problems remain “hard” and therefore encryption is still secure. There has been no corresponding increase in the difficulty of invading privacy. 30 years ago, even though you probably “could” observe somebody for a long time and eventually connect some dots about them, it would not…

Security breaches are bad for capital. Privacy invasions like this are good for capital.

Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We do not scan for advertising purposes in Gmail or other G Suite services. Google does not collect or use data in G Suite services for advertising purposes. You could drive several trucks sideways through the holes in that statement.

> for advertising purposes What other purposes would they use it for? Can anyone think of one?

Malware. Child porn. They actually do both:

https://www.theverge.com/2014/8/5/5970141/how-google-scans-y...

Oh, and for indexing, of course.

Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Google doing the same thing to people who email Gmail users?

They can build up a graph and they'll see your emails when sent to a gmail recipient or from a gmail originator to you. With a very large fraction of all email now passing through Google's servers you can expect them to be able to piece together the missing bits with high fidelity.

How come we have clowns getting elected, terrorism and financial meltdowns then? There are so many interesting things one can do with this power beyond monitoring what the plebs are upto. No great evidence exists that the power is being used despite the data and computing power having existed for 15 years now.

Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

#86

Facebook's dominance is even more pronounced in parts of the developing world. I've met people in Asia (Myanmar and Nepal) who have just accessed the internet for the first time in the past 12-24 months (through their Android smartphones). But they don't know the true internet - they only know the internet through the Facebook app. They use it like we use Google and web browsers. To them, Facebook is the internet. Th…

Email also isn't very popular in China. I'd surmise it has something to do with the popularity of instant messaging in the new generation internet users.

Using email feels cumbersome compared to WeChat. Of course, you pay the price of having a single app do everything but most people don't even register that as a potential threat.

Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

#87
post #74

I signed up for facebook two years ago, didn't put any real information on there, then haven't touched it since. I still get emails about "people you might know" that they have absolutely no business knowing about and aren't in any way connected to my immediate family. It's creepy and I don't want them storing that information about me, but there's nothing I can do. I've been cautious about putting my information on…

In all likelihood your acquaintances and friends were the unwitting source of that information.

Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

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post #65

I read the Share Lab metadata report, based on an examination of the metadata in the headers of the emails exchanged between Hacking Team members. The level of detail this provides on the network and on the individual members of the team is extraordinary. Now in the case of Facebook, imagine that times 100, then add AI to slice and dice the data better than a team of the world's top 1000 data scientists working on th…

Not just current politicians, but also future high-status men and women.

Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

#89

Facebook's dominance is even more pronounced in parts of the developing world. I've met people in Asia (Myanmar and Nepal) who have just accessed the internet for the first time in the past 12-24 months (through their Android smartphones). But they don't know the true internet - they only know the internet through the Facebook app. They use it like we use Google and web browsers. To them, Facebook is the internet. Th…

Email also isn't very popular in China. I'd surmise it has something to do with the popularity of instant messaging in the new generation internet users.

Yes. Also the fact that half of the west's trigger-happy sysadmins banned all Chinese IP addresses from virtually any cross-border SMTP activity because 'spam'.

Re: Facebook's tentacles reach further than people think

#90

Don't like it don't use it.

They have shadow profiles of people not on the service. It's more like "don't like it hope nobody socially linked to you uses it" which is pretty much a zero percent chance unless you are a Sentinelese fisherman.
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