Can 5 adults and 2 kids really fit in Model S?
Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? Do you have a limited amount of time you can stay in the autobahn as opposed to a French or Spanish motorway, forcing you to speed up? Or is it that you just want to go 200Km/h and it's not about overtaking safely?
No its about following the rest of the traffic. In the unlimited sections, traffic is 130++ km/h (up to 200-250 in overtaking lane), So if you are slower, changing lanes, overtaking etc. becomes less safe.
But you were talking about overtaking, that's a completely different scenario (keeping up with traffic on the slow lane).
You're saying that any combination of car and driver than can't sustain cruise speeds over 130Km/h is a danger.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't have to but some people like to arrive earlier and drive faster. And many people I know don't like following other cars, so they'd rather overtake and drive 130 km/h in front of the other car than behind. This, however, changes with autopilot.
Driving faster on the autobahn (or any freeway/highway) will not get you to your destination much faster. The total transit time is impacted the most by city/local traffic and such. Unless you are on a 500km journey you are not saving much time going 180 (rather than 140) on the autobahn.
This is actually incorrect. When you ask a German how far away another city is, their first question will be: "What kind of car do you drive?"
The biggest difference is that in Germany, the speeds are more sustained. In the US, cars generally drive in whatever lane they feel like, so your speed is constantly changing. So even a difference of 180 vs 140 will be significant. (and it could easily be 200 instead of 120).
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#114I will happily be wrong about this, but isn't a lead time of a year for a "mass market" vehicle a bit of an ask. Last time I bought a car the "lead time" was a week.
This is why I'm buying a Chevy Bolt this weekend. My current lease is up and the Bolt is here right now. No reservations and wait lists. The Model 3 looks great, but the process to get one seems geared only people that really like Tesla, not someone like me that doesn't really care about cars.
The charging network is the real selling point over the Bolt. Well, looks too but that's subjective.
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#115Is it normal for a car company to make a luxury model and an economic model that looks so similar? I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons they feel the need to put up this comparison: they're not differentiating much on external looks, so they have to make it really clear that they're differentiating on features.
BMW and Audi basically do that.
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#116There is a misconception that the Model 3 is the most advanced Tesla model simply because it is the newest Tesla model. This was cannibalizing the sales of the Model S more than Tesla expected it to. Buyer who could afford a Model S or Model X were waiting for the Model 3 because they were under the mistaken belief that the Model 3 would offer all the newest, cutting edge technologies and self-driving capabilities. A…
I really want to meet the person that thinks a $35k car is going to be better than a $100k car...
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had to convert units to miles per hour to get a handle on the situation. For others in my boat: You're going 80-93 mph in the center lane, and the unsafe driver impeding you is going 80 mph. In order to overtake this erratic driver, you need to move to the left lane and accelerate to 93-110 mph. The trouble is, on the Autobahn, drivers in the left lane are usually traveling at speeds of 110-137 mph, and often times…
I believe you have a slight conversion error. I don't think you're seeing speeds of 200mph. (that would be 320+ kph!)
Yes, 320km/h is a rare sight. Happens though, a Veyron once blew past me while i was going 180 in the center lane at night. It felt like I was standing still.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Driving faster on the autobahn (or any freeway/highway) will not get you to your destination much faster. The total transit time is impacted the most by city/local traffic and such. Unless you are on a 500km journey you are not saving much time going 180 (rather than 140) on the autobahn.
This is actually incorrect. When you ask a German how far away another city is, their first question will be: "What kind of car do you drive?" The biggest difference is that in Germany, the speeds are more sustained. In the US, cars generally drive in whatever lane they feel like, so your speed is constantly changing. So even a difference of 180 vs 140 will be significant. (and it could easily be 200 instead of 120).
This is untrue. Are you seriously attempting to use a colloquial joke as some sort of evidence?
While Germans are a bit more conscious of driving in the left lane when not passing, what you are saying neither makes sense, nor is it applicable, especially in any amount of traffic.
It also totally discounts the vast amount of road construction and maintenance that Germans continually do on their roadways (infrastructure maintenance is a big deal). The construction alone, especially in Hessen/Rhineland Pfalz vastly impacts travel times in ways going 40kmph faster could never attempt to approach.
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#119Can 5 adults and 2 kids really fit in Model S?
With 2 in the trunk, rear facing.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is why I'm buying a Chevy Bolt this weekend. My current lease is up and the Bolt is here right now. No reservations and wait lists. The Model 3 looks great, but the process to get one seems geared only people that really like Tesla, not someone like me that doesn't really care about cars.
The charging network is the real selling point over the Bolt. Well, looks too but that's subjective.
The supercharger network is impressive, for sure. But here in the Northeast there are enough CCS DC Fast charging stations available for use and more on the way, making the couple of times I do 200+ mile road trips each year not a big deal. 99% of the time I will be using a Level 2 EVSE at home, just like the Tesla folks will. Appearance-wise, I just don't care much because I've never been into sports cars. I think the Bolt is cute and the hatchback style makes it a good family car which is exactly what I was looking for. For those that like sexy sports cars and wouldn't be caught dead in a car that might as well come with those stick family stickers on the rear windshield, Tesla is the clear winner.