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Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#91

Post by GuB-42 »

arscan wrote: post #85
dgudkov wrote: post #29

I couldn't stop feeling like this page is nothing else but a promotion for "Model S" which is "superior and now" rather than the other car which is "inferior and 1 year later". Price would've been the biggest (and only) reason for "Model 3" but it's not shown on the page. Added extra details for "Model 3" is a nice trick to boost virality of the promotion aimed at its target audience -- potential Model 3 buyers. Well…

I think this is in reaction to the confusion over Model 3 being the "next version" of the Model S. People might be holding off on buying the S because they think that the 3 is better. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/845278449811939328 . When asked why he named it Model 3 in that thread, his response was: "Because I was a dumb idiot and didn't realize at the time that it would cause confusion". This mistake seems…

It is should have been Model E, like it was originally intended.

But I heard that some people didn't like the idea of S/E/X...

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#92

Post by lloeki »

darklajid wrote: post #47
Roritharr wrote: post #6

I'm really interested in the topspeed. For german customers all the current gen EVs(Bolt/i3/Leaf/Ioniq) with a topspeed of 140-150km/h are to my opinion not really save to drive on the Autobahn as you don't have some speed buffer to overtake someone who's driving 120-130km/h fast enough. If Tesla manages to give the Model 3 a top-speed of 200km/h that would be a game-changer and make it a viable car for me. The Model…

As someone that loves to drive fast (hell, I am forced to drive a Prius right now and 195km/h is the norm, where possible), I have to agree with bemused. If you can't do 100 reliably (I drove a lot of Citroen 2CVs) the Autobahn sucks, because now busses and some trucks try to overtake you. If you can do 120 you're fine. You might not be fast and probably stay on the right/middle lane, but there is absolutely nothing…

EVs have boatloads of torque available, so they can generally propel you near the top speed in reasonable time before it plateaus, and more often than not the problem isn't so much on the mechanical power side of things but on the electrical power storage and delivery one (heat, battery wear). So it's entirely unlike a 2CV which can't go fast and can't go halfway near top speed quick because the two values are directly tied to mechanical power delivery. An EV with a 145kph top speed says nigh about its acceleration profile.

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#93

Post by dotancohen »

moduspwnens14 wrote: post #77
dgudkov wrote: post #29

I couldn't stop feeling like this page is nothing else but a promotion for "Model S" which is "superior and now" rather than the other car which is "inferior and 1 year later". Price would've been the biggest (and only) reason for "Model 3" but it's not shown on the page. Added extra details for "Model 3" is a nice trick to boost virality of the promotion aimed at its target audience -- potential Model 3 buyers. Well…

Yeah. I reserved the Model 3 a while ago, but I've been leaning more and more toward just canceling it and getting a Model S. Even though I can afford it, it's just a lot of money for someone like me who isn't really a "car person" anyway.

That's what is terrific about the Model S. One does not have to be a 'car person' to really appreciate that vehicle. I would say that if you are already considering it, go ahead and get the S. You will most certainly not regret it.

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#94

Post by wlesieutre »

GuB-42 wrote: post #91
arscan wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is in reaction to the confusion over Model 3 being the "next version" of the Model S. People might be holding off on buying the S because they think that the 3 is better. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/845278449811939328 . When asked why he named it Model 3 in that thread, his response was: "Because I was a dumb idiot and didn't realize at the time that it would cause confusion". This mistake seems…

It is should have been Model E, like it was originally intended. But I heard that some people didn't like the idea of S/E/X...

Musk liked that joke but Ford has the "Model E" trademark

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#95

Post by [deleted] »

GuB-42 wrote: post #91
arscan wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is in reaction to the confusion over Model 3 being the "next version" of the Model S. People might be holding off on buying the S because they think that the 3 is better. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/845278449811939328 . When asked why he named it Model 3 in that thread, his response was: "Because I was a dumb idiot and didn't realize at the time that it would cause confusion". This mistake seems…

It is should have been Model E, like it was originally intended. But I heard that some people didn't like the idea of S/E/X...

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Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#96

Post by [deleted] »

GuB-42 wrote: post #91
arscan wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is in reaction to the confusion over Model 3 being the "next version" of the Model S. People might be holding off on buying the S because they think that the 3 is better. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/845278449811939328 . When asked why he named it Model 3 in that thread, his response was: "Because I was a dumb idiot and didn't realize at the time that it would cause confusion". This mistake seems…

It is should have been Model E, like it was originally intended. But I heard that some people didn't like the idea of S/E/X...

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Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#97

Post by Tostino »

GuB-42 wrote: post #91
arscan wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is in reaction to the confusion over Model 3 being the "next version" of the Model S. People might be holding off on buying the S because they think that the 3 is better. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/845278449811939328 . When asked why he named it Model 3 in that thread, his response was: "Because I was a dumb idiot and didn't realize at the time that it would cause confusion". This mistake seems…

It is should have been Model E, like it was originally intended. But I heard that some people didn't like the idea of S/E/X...

No, it was because Ford holds the trademark for Model E: http://insideevs.com/ford-motor-company-filed-for-model-e-tr...

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#98

Post by S_A_P »

imron wrote: post #66
S_A_P wrote: post #53

I think musk dropped the ball here. A decontented 35-40k model 3 should be available. They should also allow you to option the price up for luxury and performance like the A4/S4/RS4 or 320/328/335/m3. That should make this vehicle both profitable and more aspirational.

> That should make this vehicle both profitable and more aspirational. Don't want to be too aspirational until it's actually available for sale. Otherwise everyone aspiring to own one will just wait.

I'm not sure that most car buyers in that price range actually wait. People buying a 40k car probably need it as a daily driver.

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#99

Post by viraptor »

monitron wrote: post #63
Nursie wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having to look down and over to see the speed seems like a big change from basically every other car on the road. Is this even within regulations in most places?

Check out the Mini or Prius. Both have the primary driver display (like speed) centered away from the driver: http://imgur.com/a/Z2Z5p

Which Prius? 2007 had it available in the deep well with a mirrored display over the steering wheel, not in the centre (http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/1f0271de306e45aab983f8c2c6e0f6ad/2...) Later models had either that or a heads up display on the windshield.

Re: Tesla Model S and Model 3 comparison

#100

Post by [deleted] »

arscan wrote: post #85
dgudkov wrote: post #29

I couldn't stop feeling like this page is nothing else but a promotion for "Model S" which is "superior and now" rather than the other car which is "inferior and 1 year later". Price would've been the biggest (and only) reason for "Model 3" but it's not shown on the page. Added extra details for "Model 3" is a nice trick to boost virality of the promotion aimed at its target audience -- potential Model 3 buyers. Well…

I think this is in reaction to the confusion over Model 3 being the "next version" of the Model S. People might be holding off on buying the S because they think that the 3 is better. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/845278449811939328 . When asked why he named it Model 3 in that thread, his response was: "Because I was a dumb idiot and didn't realize at the time that it would cause confusion". This mistake seems…

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