I think the key point here is Musk is moving as quickly as he can towards automatic and robots. Unionization will only push him to do that harder, speeding up until humans are factored out of the equation along with their jobs.
Safety incidents at Tesla plant were higher than industry average in 2015
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#22>Charley Briese said his job involved pulling down a hanging drill three times a minute for 12 to 16 hours a day, causing severe tendinitis 12-16 hrs a day?
That's unusual in the auto industry. Usually, plants run a second shift rather than paying overtime to the first shift. It's cheaper. Accident rates go up and quality goes down as employees get tired. You have to have a meal break in there, which costs more line downtime than a shift change.
Tesla must have a hard time hiring. I'm shocked they aren't running three shifts with the production backlog they have.
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#23The Simpsons explained unions many years ago. It's spot on: Waif: You can't treat the working man this way! One of these days we'll form a union, and get the fair and equitable treatment we deserve! Then we'll go too far, and become corrupt and shiftless, and the Japanese will eat us alive!
In this case it will be Japanese ROBOTS!
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#24There's no defending Tesla's worker rights or saftey record. This is a company that's stood at the brink of failure for years and only survives through the blood, sweat, and tears of its employees. Maybe you believe Elon when he says that it's worth it, but there's no arguing that it's a steep price to pay. It's incredibly frustrating that no one has figured out a way to bring about the kind of transformative change…
You should read the article. They are a high number of incidents, but they are mostly minor things.
It's a poor way to compare a company's safety record.
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#25There's no defending Tesla's worker rights or saftey record. This is a company that's stood at the brink of failure for years and only survives through the blood, sweat, and tears of its employees. Maybe you believe Elon when he says that it's worth it, but there's no arguing that it's a steep price to pay. It's incredibly frustrating that no one has figured out a way to bring about the kind of transformative change…
I don't think line workers should be asked to sacrifice their health to make the company successful. It is highly unlikely they are getting any meaningful stock options or bonuses associated with their level of sacrifice.
It isn't the equivalent of a startup employee working through the holidays to ship code. The benefits of workplace ergonomics, not only to employee health but also to production speed, have been known for decades. Tesla doesn't have to reinvent the wheel here.
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#27"Tesla's safety record had been worse than slaughterhouses and sawmills." OMG "The scores don’t account for severity however.” Oh...
My thoughts exactly; yet another clickbait story based on meaningless data.
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#28The Simpsons explained unions many years ago. It's spot on: Waif: You can't treat the working man this way! One of these days we'll form a union, and get the fair and equitable treatment we deserve! Then we'll go too far, and become corrupt and shiftless, and the Japanese will eat us alive!
japanese did not eat us automotive industry alive because of unions. japanese primarily eat the us automotive industry alive because of far superior manufacturing innovation.
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#29There's no defending Tesla's worker rights or saftey record. This is a company that's stood at the brink of failure for years and only survives through the blood, sweat, and tears of its employees. Maybe you believe Elon when he says that it's worth it, but there's no arguing that it's a steep price to pay. It's incredibly frustrating that no one has figured out a way to bring about the kind of transformative change…
Really? The fact that this article is based on 2015 stats, and the company has improved to be significantly better than the industry average since then is a pretty good defense...
Learning from mistakes is one of the key traits of successful people and companies.
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#30> Tesla did not dispute the numbers.
> we now have the lowest injury rate in the industry by far
This article seems to be misleading readers into thinking that Tesla has unsafe working conditions, despite being the best in the industry.