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What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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A stray nipple is a cheaper binary test than "above some threshold of ideological hatefulness"

"cheaper binary test" shouldn't be the way to decide though.

It's the quintessential Computer Science way to decide. "Which algorithm has lower complexity? Nudity filter? Ok, use that one."

This is why it's very frustrating that any equivalent of "the public square" on the internet is almost always owned by a private entity.

Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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> Facebook can be a backup for your photos. Nonsense. Try getting the originals out of Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/settings > Download a copy of your Facebook data.

Just did exactly that. Thanks!

Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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I think the worst thing that they do is disable your ability to send messages. This weekend a friend committed suicide, and I had just started a seven day ban due to idiotically posting the wrong photo (a nude) to a meme group. Whereas most of my closest friends have me on WhatsApp, so I could reassure them I was ok, it was really fucking horrible getting a bunch of Messenger messages asking if I was ok and being com…

I know it's not directly on-topic, but I find it amazing that people end up copping a seven-day ban for a bit of titty, but then nothing is done for those videos of people killing puppies and shit.

I think it was my third time to be honest, I probably fully deserved it, I just think taking away people's ability to speak privately to people is verging on cruel and unusual, and from an uncaring perspective a fucking terrible way to instil trust in your service.

Like hey, do you want to use one of these messengers where you wont get banned for utter bullshit, or do you want to entrust your communication to a service where you can lose it for an arbitrary period for breaking some of our shitty prudish rules?

Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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I know it's not directly on-topic, but I find it amazing that people end up copping a seven-day ban for a bit of titty, but then nothing is done for those videos of people killing puppies and shit.

On the other hand, I find it interesting that everytime somebody is complaining about censorship on Facebook, they are almost always following up with complaints of some other objectionable content not being censored. The think about the nipple ban is it is a really simple rule and it is really easy to decide if a picture contains a nipple or not.

Only girl nipples though, which is another stupid thing.

Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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I know it's not directly on-topic, but I find it amazing that people end up copping a seven-day ban for a bit of titty, but then nothing is done for those videos of people killing puppies and shit.

There are plenty of racist extremist kooks on FB, and their posts are rarely - if ever - banned. Apparently a stray nipple is more of a threat to society.

Full disclaimer, this was a picture of me where my dick is kinda visible - I was intending on uploading it to a secret adult only group where this shit is consensual which I know is taking a bit of a risk, but it harms/affects absolutely no-one, but accidentally posted it to the wrong group.

Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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We need laws that will put real chill in the people who try to get away with something like this.

How do you mean? Laws that prevent services from targeting ads and content based on their users' identities?

Exactly. And people behind it should be afraid of very real time behind the bars.

Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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Seems like an appropriate time for this Andrew Lewis quote - "If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product"

Haha. I have to chuckle. I'm really curious why anyone would downvote this comment, unless of course they worked for Facebook.

Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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Consider not using Facebook at all. It has zero value for the user, it only has value for Facebook.

Facebook has enormous value for the user. They didn't get this popular by accident. They provide a wonderful service, and they chain it to acceptance of their awful terms. Imagining that your use case is the only use case is the great bane of geeks and developers. If you want to help build a world without awful tech companies, you need to stop doing that.

I have to agree with Marenkay. I left Facebook a long time ago and haven't missed it on bit. There was some minimal value, I suppose, in being able to have anyone contact me if they didn't have my email. And possibly organize invites for events. All of this is, of course, possible without Facebook, they just made it easier. However, the real issue is the secret cost of Facebook far outweighs any benefit the user derives.

Also, the reason Facebook is popular is not because it adds extraordinary value for the user, it's because it caters to things like curiosity, narcissism, and ego that reside in all of us. It's feeding those things that keep the user hooked and coming back. Not "value". The extraordinary value you speak of is what the shareholders have.

Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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Facebook has enormous value for the user. They didn't get this popular by accident. They provide a wonderful service, and they chain it to acceptance of their awful terms. Imagining that your use case is the only use case is the great bane of geeks and developers. If you want to help build a world without awful tech companies, you need to stop doing that.

I have to agree with Marenkay. I left Facebook a long time ago and haven't missed it on bit. There was some minimal value, I suppose, in being able to have anyone contact me if they didn't have my email. And possibly organize invites for events. All of this is, of course, possible without Facebook, they just made it easier. However, the real issue is the secret cost of Facebook far outweighs any benefit the user deri…

Again, your use case is not the only use case. Facebook doesn't provide value for you, and that's perfectly reasonable. But at this point you're basically a guy who doesn't care for falafel standing outside a packed falafel restaurant trying to figure out what character flaw drives people to eat there, since obviously they can't just like falafel.

I don't use Facebook much, in part because of how awful its policies are, but when I do use it, it remains a fantastic tool for keeping in touch with friends. At this point someone always declares that it's actually just narcissism, because email and IM exist and nobody actually needs Facebook, which is a lot like someone 20 years ago declaring that this email thing is just a fad because we already have phones and mail.

Re: What I Learned When Facebook Disabled My Account (2012)

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I think the worst thing that they do is disable your ability to send messages. This weekend a friend committed suicide, and I had just started a seven day ban due to idiotically posting the wrong photo (a nude) to a meme group. Whereas most of my closest friends have me on WhatsApp, so I could reassure them I was ok, it was really fucking horrible getting a bunch of Messenger messages asking if I was ok and being com…

Well, they banned you because they want you to stop posting inappropriate pictures (as defined by their TOS). They also stopped you from using their messager because they were afraid you would just continue sending inappropriate picture using private messages (which would make their ban completely useless). I agree though that they should have let your friends know that you cannot answer any messages for X amount of…

They could have banned me from, for instance, posting any media for a week.
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