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Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by fnord123 »

Rotten194 wrote: post #592
fnord123 wrote: post #566

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>1. a bicycle on a blue circle Only bicycles >2. a bicycle on a white circle outlined in red No bicycles. >3. a bicycle on a blue [rectangle] Recommended route for bicycles.

You're missing the point -- that's very non-obvious if you haven't studied the signs.

It was a comment for Americans who might not know the signs; not really an argument.

But really, if you're driving then you should have done a driving exam and test in your home country. Then you're ready to drive from Romania to Ireland (with the help of some tunnels and ferries) and be able to manage reading the road signs the whole way. This is possible because of a (mostly) shared iconography. Of course, on a bike you don't need to pass a test but you should do a little bit of studying to make sure you don't get a fine.

The US doesn't need this because it uses English.

This is also completely distinct from keyboards which aren't even QWERTY across Europe. There are also AZERTY (France) and QWERTZ (Germany) and some countries like Belgium have all three in the same office as people have different preferences. And pair programming is as painful as you can imagine.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by j45 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #480
j45 wrote: post #379

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Haha, you literally stole the thought out of my mind when I had hit send - Asus has some great value/performance, but I wasn't sure of the Linux support. I have a good friend who runs linux natively (I use a VM) and is raving about the new Lenovo Carbon X1 as well.

Don't get me wrong, I run a Ubuntu Variant natively, no dual-booting on my ASUS ROG laptop, but the Nvidia drivers are iffy, also battery life is a downer. Would love to see a Linux compliant laptop with amazing battery life. I would think MacBooks are very common enough hardware wise to where Linux support would be pretty decent, same with a Surface... Maybe even the Dell ones, so I'm just waiting and waiting...

Great battery life is what keeps me on MacOS. I heard the Thinkpad Carbon X1 Battery life in Linux is pretty good.

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Post by StillBored »

wooter wrote: post #392
mmahemoff wrote: post #269

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I'm not crunching big data in development or doing much with graphics (other than occasional faffing on some image editor). What I'm running is a lot of local servers. Each server has overhead even if you are only storing one byte of data. ie I'm running Rails, MySQL, Elastic, Redis, Nginx, Memcached, and in some cases, multiple instances (dev, test, and multiple shards) And then the usual OS requirements - Vim, 250…

Dev-Prod parity is probably the best reason to want the extra power, but then you're just limiting your software to the lowest common denominator between mobile computing and a server farm. At the end of the day, if you want to take advantage of the big guns, you will have to sacrifice mobility or parity and spend some good time on devOps. And even an extra 16GB won't get you around that. Also, 250 tabs? dayum. I don…

I frequently have that many tabs open because I use them as lighter one-shot bookmarks (although see onetab). Basically things that I need/want to refer back to once or twice but don't want to bookmark. So they tend to stack up until I go through them and close out the stuff I'm no longer interested in. Really I think FF/etc should probably just garbage collect most of them if they haven't been active for a few days.

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Post by tracker1 »

kayoone wrote: post #357
lilactown wrote: post #265

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I think that the users who DO have that usecase (like the OP) are clamoring for a machine that is more portable. The same debate raged when the MBP was released; people want a powerful, sleek and portable workhorse that they can use for longer than 2 hours, and no one is delivering right now.

Maybe because its not easy todo with current technology ? Size, heat and power consumption all have to be balanced carefully, so you can not just stuff an i7 quad core with 32GB RAM in a tiny package and expect it to be great. Compromises have to be made. I think it's incredible what kind of processing power we can have in small packages today and it will of course move forward, but for some people it's never quick e…

How much more heat/power would 32gb vs 16b use/generate... okay, so I get 12.5 hours instead of 13... As long as it's more than 8.5 hours battery life under modest load. The RAM is very far from a big consumer of electricity in a laptop.. the screen and cpu are MUCH more of an issue there, likewise in terms of heat.

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Post by tracker1 »

mgkimsal wrote: post #355
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Maybe it's limited because companies are only putting it in workstation class laptops instead of giving consumers a choice.

bingo. the demand for 32g in a laptop was greater than the demand for a touchbar, I can tell you that.

The issue for that is kind of like the "faster horses" vs cars. In this case, however the touchbar was a half-baked interface in trade for the lack of full touch.

Re: New Surface Pro

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Post by dalore »

8draco8 wrote: post #190
dalore wrote: post #173

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Yes, but this "laptops" are set to use cpu in burst mode. So if you run servers like docker and VMs etc (like I do on my SP4) you often hit the burst limit and the cpu throttle's right back down. I've taken to using an external usb fan to get extra speed.

If you run servers then SP4 is not for you. Choose proper tool for your job. SP contrary to its name is not pro at all, it just looks professional but if you want to do serious work you need serious horse power.

Obviously not running prod servers on it. But for on the go development, what's wrong with using some of that 16gb to start some docker containers to work?
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