Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
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Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
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Re: Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
#2I'm still left with the question of "why all the parenthesis?"
While it might sound silly and reductionist, it is ostensibly the single hurdle I could never overcome when it came to lisp languages. The majority resides with the fact that it could work without them, so I see it as an ancient artifact.
Re: Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
#3I'm still left with the question of "why all the parenthesis?" While it might sound silly and reductionist, it is ostensibly the single hurdle I could never overcome when it came to lisp languages. The majority resides with the fact that it could work without them, so I see it as an ancient artifact.
The parentheses end up serving as a tool to speed up the development process with tool like paredit. You end up manipulating the "tree" of code vs the characters on a line. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6h5dFyyUX0
Re: Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
#4I'm still left with the question of "why all the parenthesis?" While it might sound silly and reductionist, it is ostensibly the single hurdle I could never overcome when it came to lisp languages. The majority resides with the fact that it could work without them, so I see it as an ancient artifact.
There seems to be a very nice solution to the parenthesis problem: https://sourceforge.net/p/readable/wiki/Home/
I have no idea why it hasn't caught on. As far as I'm aware, there's no Clojure implementation. Lispers like their parentheses.
Re: Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
#5I'm still left with the question of "why all the parenthesis?" While it might sound silly and reductionist, it is ostensibly the single hurdle I could never overcome when it came to lisp languages. The majority resides with the fact that it could work without them, so I see it as an ancient artifact.
The parentheses end up serving as a tool to speed up the development process with tool like paredit. You end up manipulating the "tree" of code vs the characters on a line. Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6h5dFyyUX0
paredit doesn't require parentheses to do it's magic.
Re: Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
#6Going further, it seems like the whole category of alternative languages hit a peak about three years ago, and interest has been dwindling since. It's like coders got their fix of "new ways of thinking about code", and now have gone back to whatever they feel most productive in.
Moreover, the buzziest alt languages now (Elixir, Go, Kotlin) seem to be much closer to existing mainstream languages than the buzzy ones of a couple years ago.
Re: Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
#7Clojure's not dying, but it's also not thriving[1].
I think it will continue on as a solid niche language for the foreseeable future, but it's highly unlikely that the language will grow by leaps and bounds barring some must-have innovation in the Clojure language and/or ecosystem that gets the tech world to take it more seriously.
There are so many options these days that it's tough to stand out from the crowd. Clojurescript, while interesting, is a dime-a-dozen with Elm, Purescript, Scala.js, Typescript, etc. all on offer, and with static types to boot. Also, Lisp itself is a tough sell, mainstream adoption isn't in the cards without a major paradigm shift.
[1] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F0_lcrx4,%2...
Re: Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
#8I'm still left with the question of "why all the parenthesis?" While it might sound silly and reductionist, it is ostensibly the single hurdle I could never overcome when it came to lisp languages. The majority resides with the fact that it could work without them, so I see it as an ancient artifact.
There seems to be a very nice solution to the parenthesis problem: https://sourceforge.net/p/readable/wiki/Home/ I have no idea why it hasn't caught on. As far as I'm aware, there's no Clojure implementation. Lispers like their parentheses.
Perhaps because significant white space (e.g. Python) has quite a lot of detractors of its own.
Re: Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
#9I do wonder how much the purchase of Sun (Java) by Oracle and/or the slow down in Java advancement has affected those languages that a primarily hosted on the JVM.
Re: Is Clojure dying, and what has Ruby got to do with it?
#10I'm still left with the question of "why all the parenthesis?" While it might sound silly and reductionist, it is ostensibly the single hurdle I could never overcome when it came to lisp languages. The majority resides with the fact that it could work without them, so I see it as an ancient artifact.
There seems to be a very nice solution to the parenthesis problem: https://sourceforge.net/p/readable/wiki/Home/ I have no idea why it hasn't caught on. As far as I'm aware, there's no Clojure implementation. Lispers like their parentheses.
This is a much more approachable syntax, reads much like a mix of Ruby and Python