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Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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Vue.js is awesome! I am glad to see so many more people adopting it for serious projects.

What are your favourite libraries/extensions (for want of a better term) to use with it? I'm on my first VueJS 2 project, and found a number which are abandoned...

Vue has the best implementation of Material Design I've ever seen: https://vuematerial.github.io/#/

Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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I'm a tad confused by a few things. Is this meant to be a cool tech demo, or a real product? I noticed the author mentioned adding new features and a premium version in another comment. This leads me to believe it's intended to be a real product. With that in mind, I have a few questions: 1. If this is inspired by Notational Velocity, a very popular and real product, why is this also named Notational? I understand if…

> Is the real-time feature the only way you plan to make this different/better than the others?

If so, Simplenote already does this and has apps for almost all platforms.

Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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Thanks! No UI framework just custom SCSS. Thinking about turning it into a micro-framework if I have time.

Your `palette` function is super dope. I'm gonna use that.

Thanks! I picked that up after reading a lot of SCSS on GitHub.

Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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I've used Vue for a couple projects now and it's my favorite SPA framework by far. But I liked Knockout too, and now that feels abandoned, and I'm afraid Vue will suffer the same fate. Will it really stick around in the face of React, Angular, and Ember? I feel like there is only room for so many frameworks. So I'm a little nervous to recommend Vue for really large projects. Can anyone offer a good reason why I shoul…

Well, Vue can use React, can't it? So they kind of co-exist.

It can use JSX.

Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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Vue.js is awesome! I am glad to see so many more people adopting it for serious projects.

I have been required to use Vue.js in a current project (a semi complex app with lots of forms). It's the perfect way for clueless js fanboys to write unmaintainable spaghetti code. It's nothing less than a poorly designed view layer with no kind of architecture or tooling. It's naive and harmful (because of the way it is being marketed). It's a hobby project by someone that think they know what they are doing, but are really just mindlessly copying features that sound cool from real projects without understanding the underlying complexities or real world challanges. I've worked on large code bases on many different projects, both front-end and backend, with many different frameworks and architectures (including most of the popular js frameworks). Vue.js is the single most stupid and pointless "application framework" I have ever used.

Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are your favourite libraries/extensions (for want of a better term) to use with it? I'm on my first VueJS 2 project, and found a number which are abandoned...

Vue has the best implementation of Material Design I've ever seen: https://vuematerial.github.io/#/

Vuetify is also good. https://github.com/vuetifyjs/vuetify

Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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Forgive me for asking, but I can't find a clear answer anywhere. What is the business benefit to using Vuejs and what is the closest alternative?

If you are moving onto an old jquery style codebase (via inheriting/changing job) Vue.js can be used as a straight drop in library via a script tag and you can start unsouping that jquery mess. It also reminds me a lot of a spiritual successor to KnockoutJS (which was/is my favourite JS clientside tool still).

Interesting. That's a nice feature that sounds boring on paper but very practical.

Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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Forgive me for asking, but I can't find a clear answer anywhere. What is the business benefit to using Vuejs and what is the closest alternative?

Is there any objective reason to prefer vue over react or is it mostly a subjective preference?

Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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Vue.js is awesome! I am glad to see so many more people adopting it for serious projects.

I have been required to use Vue.js in a current project (a semi complex app with lots of forms). It's the perfect way for clueless js fanboys to write unmaintainable spaghetti code. It's nothing less than a poorly designed view layer with no kind of architecture or tooling. It's naive and harmful (because of the way it is being marketed). It's a hobby project by someone that think they know what they are doing, but a…

Every framework enables spaghetti code, why should Vue be any different? Heck, any beginner programmer is bound to make spaghetti code.

I'm not going to go into details why Vue is awesome (see all the other comments for that.), but I don't see you bringing any valid arguments for your statements. Sounds like a new framework has been pushed down your throat, and that hurts. I get it :)

Re: Show HN: Real-time notes app built with Vue.js, inspired by Notational Velocity

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I'm a tad confused by a few things. Is this meant to be a cool tech demo, or a real product? I noticed the author mentioned adding new features and a premium version in another comment. This leads me to believe it's intended to be a real product. With that in mind, I have a few questions: 1. If this is inspired by Notational Velocity, a very popular and real product, why is this also named Notational? I understand if…

Good questions! Answers below or read the note I wrote (https://notational.co/n/-Kkw64Kxe0gQWoVvS84L):

1. The name was something I came up with quickly so I could focus more on making the product. It stuck and I haven't had time to think of a new one. The creator of NV opened up an issue on GitHub (https://github.com/tmm/notational/issues/2), which I am addressing.

2. My hypothesis was "NV plus web." I needed something I could use at home (on my Mac) and at work (on Windows). The plan is to keep it simple so you can create/retrieve notes really quickly. Users have suggested markdown, etc. which I think makes sense., bu it's never going to be a general purpose notes app for everyone.

3. I'm not going to actively compete. Even if no one else uses it, I still will. I would rather have a small number of users that love it than try to appeal to a huge audience that's sort of indifferent.

4. Speed and minimalism are the main differentiators (whether it's creating a new note or trying to find an old one). There are some other cool things (like quick note sharing and dark mode) that make it a joy to use (but hey, I made the thing).

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